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Thread: Strop grits?
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07-24-2016, 02:58 AM #11
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Thanked: 98Speaking of Grits, how can the leather be worked to the slick or smooth Finish without using Grit of some kind to finish for say an Cordovan strop, it would seem to me that all of those grits cannot be completely removed, resulting in scratches and possible gouges in Razor edges.
So, what I am asking is what material IS actually used to get to that Absolute finish
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07-24-2016, 03:21 AM #12
I have sanded a few pieces of leather to try to make a strop that was as smooth and soft as a kanayama from what I can tell no grit is left behind when sanding. As for getting it as smooth and soft as a Kanayama I cannot figure that part out yet. I have an Illinois strop that was my first Strop so I nicked it A few times after sanding it,it is soft and very smooth but not as slick and soft as a kanayama.
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07-24-2016, 04:04 AM #13
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Thanked: 3795I usually try to not be rude. Seriously, I do try, but...
That is not just misleading. It's just plain, utterly stupid. I know vendor bashing is not allowed and I have no animosity toward the vendor, but the level of ignorance or deception required to produce such misinformation is just appalling.
I have a Kanayama 3 strop. What do you suppose the grit is on that?Last edited by Utopian; 07-24-2016 at 01:40 PM.
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07-24-2016, 04:08 AM #14
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07-24-2016, 04:16 AM #15
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Thanked: 3795I suppose I can use it to sharpen road grader blades.
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07-24-2016, 04:22 AM #16
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07-24-2016, 05:04 AM #18
I've read even here some that believe that the there are differences in "grit" between the strops, specifically #30000, #50000, #80000...corrections if you say, Kanayama #3 vs Kanayama #30000...probably the text on Fendrihan is cut and pasted from another vendor info sheet. As mentioned, just differences in length...really no difference between the #6 and the #9 other than length, same strop with a few extra inches.
Here's the text from the aframestoyko site, looks virtually cut and pasted to Fendrihan:
The first finest Cordovan strop is about 3mm thick, and the second piece one is about 5mm thickness that is lower grit than the first finest Cordovan. It can use it before using the first finest Cordovan, or we can use it as we need it. It is much useful than canvas strop, because it is much higher grit than canvas strop.
KANOYAMA strops have longer and thicker strop version which is more expensive, but they are the same grit as this one. Thicker and longer version of stops are used older horse Cordovan, and this one is used younger horse Cordovan. To sharpening razor, the both of them get the same excellent result.
Maker mentions grit as well...so may be a translation issue.....Last edited by Phrank; 07-24-2016 at 05:07 AM.
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07-24-2016, 05:29 AM #19
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Thanked: 98I have three Long cordovan strops, will Kanoyama rebuild them? It seems they would have to do that any way and I would like to know how they Finish the surface and with what Material?
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07-24-2016, 06:14 AM #20
Phrank I have to agree with you completely that in the case of Aframes Tokyo that it's just a translation error or something like that.
FAL I mentioned that I had sanded some leather pieces an a strop an it made it smoother an slicker with no grit left behind so far this is as for as I have gone other than a little leather conditioner on those same pieces/strop I have to say that of all my strops an leather that the kanayama strop is by far the most supple piece of leather I have ever handled. I am still unsure of how he does it but I did find a bit of info once about using the brains of the animal you got the leather from an it makes it super soft supple an a little more elastic ( which I've noticed my Kanayama has more elasticity than my other strops too) so maybe one day I'll buy some leather an cow brains an find out how to brain tan the leather an ill have the answer to his process.
I don't recall what this process was called but I do know you boil the brains until gelatinous which brings something out of the animal fat that the brain has more of an is more concentrated.