I started using strops and have a SRD modular strop, Mastro Livi Loom Strop, TM and SRD strops. After reading comments about after shave stropping, I started using my SRD modular strop with rough leather to clean the strop, then I go to the 15 laps on the fabric on the TM strop and then the 40 laps on the leather. I noticed the edge looks good but the shave is harsh and irritating. I am using the same creams and didn't get this results when using my Mastro Livi loom strop. Today, I did 10 laps on my Escher under running water after the rough leather then 40 laps on the TM leather. The shave was considerably better. I am wondering if my first procedure with strops produced to sharp an edge. I have found that being sharp doesn't mean a good shave. Being sharp and smooth is what I try to get.