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03-29-2021, 01:21 PM #1
Paddle strop or hanging strop
What do you guys think of using a paddle strop. I am familiar with paddle strops and have a couple so I am thinking I could get double duty out of it. I have also always made my knife strops out of Vegetable tanned cow leather. If I do go with a paddle strop what type of leather do you think I should use? and canvas or suede for the other side?
Looking forward to read what you all think.
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03-29-2021, 01:46 PM #2
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Thanked: 3215Hanging.
If you are new to stropping, learning to strop properly is more important than the type of strop and what the strop is made from. Stropping is the final finish that you will put on a bevel and edge before you shave with it, so the quality of your stropping can literally make or break your edge.
Generally, most new stroppers use too much pressure, a paddle strop is ridged and unforgiving. Too much pressure will roll the edge. A hanging strop will naturally have more flex and less likely to cause damage when pressure is used, though too much pressure or incorrect technique can damage an edge.
It is common for a new stropper to cut their first strop learning how to strop, and it can take about a year of daily stropping before you are consistently improving a shaving edge. So, what the strop is made from does not matter much, the performance will be about the same.
Veg tanned leather is just fine, you might want to look at a piece of nylon strapping for a practice strop, they are almost indestructible and for a new stropper will produce as good a finish as most leather.
Once you have mastered stropping, then buy a quality strop, then the strop material can make a difference.
Stropping is often, way under rated.
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03-29-2021, 02:46 PM #3
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Thanked: 13249The three stages of SR stropping
#1 Trying to do no harm, Actually during this stage a bench/paddle strop or placing the hanging strop along the edge of a table or counter can help teach the "Flip"
#2 Doing no harm, This is when the new guy finally manages to stop rolling edges and nicking the strop, the "flip is pretty smooth and an actual stropping pattern is realized, rather than going straight up and down the strop
#3 Actually improving the edge, Finally you have a smooth light stroke with a pattern that moves the spine and therefore the edge evenly and equally across the strop... You can now take a Meh edge and strop it back in to peak performance.. It is also at this point when you begin to realize the importance of a Hanging strop being able to adjust tension to match the razor
As my friend Marty already said above "Stropping is Often Underrated"Last edited by gssixgun; 03-31-2021 at 02:44 PM.
"No amount of money spent on a Stone can ever replace the value of the time it takes learning to use it properly"
Very Respectfully - Glen
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03-29-2021, 04:47 PM #4
Ok so buy a cheap strop to start. Don't use a paddle or bench strop and canvas is a good starting point. Did i read that rite?
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03-29-2021, 06:53 PM #5
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Thanked: 1083The stropping section in the library is your friend
https://shavelibrary.com/w/Razor_stropping
Also check out this thread and video, it shows up close the flip gssixgun mentioned.
https://sharprazorpalace.com/stroppi...ing-video.html
I love stropping, I find it very relaxing and medative. My choice is the hanging strop but have a few paddle strops for diamond pastes.
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03-29-2021, 07:41 PM #6
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Thanked: 3215When learning to strop a razor, pay attention.
The only time I have ever nicked a strop is when talking to someone. I have a couple strops on the doorknob of the hallway just outside the bathroom.
If my bride talks to me, I stop stropping and answer her. If she enters the hallway, bathroom or attached bedroom, I stop stropping. The slightest distraction can cause you to roll an edge or nick a strop.
Pick up a piece of 2-inch nylon strapping, the finer the weave the better and practice on that, $2-4 a yard at any fabric store. An 18-inch loop of paracord will hang on the doorknob and put the strop at waist height.
You can always paste it later for a great pasted strop substrate.
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03-29-2021, 10:25 PM #7
We can produce point / counterpoint about a hanging vs paddle strop all day long and it don't mean jack diddley unless you get a comfortable shave. Really the right answer here is whatever one (Hanging or Paddle), gives you the best shave that works with your face. Pretty simple!
Semper Fi !
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03-29-2021, 10:45 PM #8
Need to start somewhere! ...
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03-30-2021, 10:25 AM #9
Quite right, we can discuss the best way to start stropping till the cows come home but at some point you just have to git er done.
My two pence worth is that when I started which was not all that long ago compared to most here, I was advised to use a board strop for a while.
It gave me the chance to strop my razors which is an absolute must while learning the flip without damaging or cutting anything.
I progressed to a hanging strop which I still cut but not as badly as I could have and I did understand the mechanics from using that board.
If you are going to go with a hanging strop immediately, as gssixgun said, lay it flat on the counter for a while. The first nick in my lovely new strop bought tears to my eyes.- - Steve
You never realize what you have until it's gone -- Toilet paper is a good example
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03-30-2021, 02:39 PM #10