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I want to hear from any owners of the Livi loom strops and what your take on them is. Do you tape up razors when you use the pasted side? Do you miss not having the canvas aspect of a strop?
I opted for the aluminum handled version. I have seen that style used in many Livi videos, and if its good enough for him, its good enough for me :P Besides, paying an extra
$100 for a wooden handle.
I like mine. I don't use it much but it is very good when I do. I do the canvas/chrom-ox side just as Mastro did in the snake razor video and follow with the luxuriously soft leather just as he did. I say I do just as Mastro did, maybe not as expertly. :p
Well I just received my strop from SRD. I didnt get the extra chromium oxide, but there is enough on the linen/canvas side that I dont think ill need some in awhile.
I was actually shocked at how small the strop is. I measured approximately 2.5" x 9.5". I suppose the videos he has, such as the snake one, are custom sizes he makes for himself. Or it is an illusion being played on my eyes.
I havent used it yet, as I just unwrapped it, but the leather is indeed very soft. Now the fear of nicking it is setting in, but ill get over that quick :)
I like loom strops much more than paddles, but I use both. Be sure to loosen the tension after use.
How tight should it be? What is the harm in leaving it with tension. I can press down a bit on the leather now, so it does have some give. Do you really increase the tension before the stropping..then release it each time?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkeye5
WOW....never knew anything about that..and im glad you responded.
Leather and canvas stretch. Whether you would run out of bolt to continue stretching it more is questionable but I always take the tension off of mine too. Ounce of prevention or something like that. :)
Here is a video of Mastro using his loom strop, the short one, after an interesting demonstration of honing technique. The stropping begins at 2:21 of the video . We could have saved our money and used the palm of our hands according to the video. :D
YouTube - SnakeRazor
How much tension do you put in your strop? Do you think that the size of that loom is the same size as what we bought?
Yes the one in the video above is the standard. The long one in another video was limited to Mastro and Lynn AFAIK. I imagine it would cost many bags of gold. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by IsaacRN
I tighten my loom about as taut as I would pull my hanging strop. Snug but I don't make it trampoline tight. You can adjust it either way once you figure out what you like. Really is a handy tool.
I'll second Jimmy's comments.
Mine is in a box. I tighten it before removing from the box. How tight is up to you, but I don't want it so tight that I can pluck it and play a tune!
When I replace it in the box I just loosen the tension to prevent stretching. Only takes four or five quick twists of the handle.
hmmmm, thanks for the replys, I have never taken the tension off of mine....seems fine after a year, I guess I will start.
Is replacement canvas/leather available for the frame? J
I would really like to know that as well. I wouldnt mind buying one that doesnt have paste on it
The only ones I have ever seen come pasted.Quote:
Originally Posted by IsaacRN
Good to know I suppose. I really enjoy the leather on mine :)
Lynn, does that mean you can get a replacement? If so, how? Thanks J
Yes you can. We do not stock them but you can special order it through us.
Thanks Don
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Originally Posted by jleeg
Not saying I want one but what about the long, looks like 3 or 4 feet, loom strop that Lynn is using in the Razor Con '09 video ? Could one of those be special ordered too ? I imagine that would cost a pretty penny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don
I am pretty sure those can still be special ordered too Jimmy.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
Thanks for the info Lynn. I know I don't have to tell you 'cause you know ..... that leather on my Livi loom is some of the finest, softest I've ever seen or felt. Isaac said he really enjoys the leather on his and so do I. If someone reads that who hasn't stropped a razor on it they just can't imagine it. Really sweet stuff and I love my standard Livi loom.
Just got mine; used but perfect. OH YEAH, how sweet.
Holy-crap!Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
what the heck kind of razor is that, and.... wow. talk about honing technique! seems rather rough on the razor, slapping it on the stone and hide, and palm. but heck, it works!
and heck, now i want a loom-strop.
guess that honing video really shows how you can get a shaving edge in a bunch of different ways.
YMMV
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how do you adjust the tension on the loom? do you have to loosen/tighten those two nuts between the strop and the handle? Or, can you just twist the handle?
Loosening the two nuts seems like a PITA.
How do you adjust tension? I read posts that guys loosen these before putting them to bed and I had images of wrenches...
But, just a turn of the handle will adjust tension. Simple. J
Yes, turn the handle .... clockwise to tighten and counter clockwise to loosen .... just like a wine bottle. :D
I would like to get a replacement leather/canvas.
I've kinda turned my leather green, never thought of just cleaning it with a towel between the chrome and leather strokes Duh!
How would I get a price/order a replacement.
Inquire at Straight Razor Designs
I wonder what happened to that snake razor? Does anyone on here own it now?
Does anybody else feel like a complete tool every time they watch that video? I don't think anyone can question that this man knows what he's doing, yet a HUGE portion of what he does in that video is contrary to what most folks around here (including me) do, and he honed that razor in about 1/8 the time I could hone a razor on my best day.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
No not at all. Like I always say, some folks develop their own way to do things that may seem 180 degrees out from the norm and they get superior results. Remember they (in this case Livi) have been doing this probably for many, many years. I wouldn't recommend you try it.Quote:
Originally Posted by VeeDubb65
lol, I won't be trying his method any time soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigspendur