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Howdy all,
Just thought id ask the users out in Razor Land what materials they enjoy from the SRD strops.
I currently have the webbing and black latigo 3 inch strop. While it works ok for me i really cant stand the sound the webbing makes when my razor zips across it.
Thinking about replacing the webbing so thought id ask to see what the most loved fabric is.
I have a few of the different leathers and backing materials from SRD.
My favorite leathers are the Premium I and IV.
For fabrics, I love the linen for CrO, the hard felt for Diamond spray. I also keep a hard pressed felt on my paddle clean, that works great too, IME.
The hard felt it a nice sound and a nice feel. I've also got the SRD Premium fabric. It has a great feel and a bit of a lower pitch when you "zip" the razor across it.
If you're going for stealth and quiet, then the felt is where it's at.
I almost didn't go with the poly webbing because of that sound when I was testing it. But........the results from it were so good and the fact that it also worked well with pastes really was the deciding factor in introducing it into the strop world. Other than it's distinctive sound, it has been a hit across the board and virtually every strop maker out there has added it to their strops now. Nuttin' wrong with the cottons, linen or felt. Lots of versatility and personal preference involved.
Have fun,
Lynn
I have the poly webbing and at first I thought it was strange but now I actually prefer it to the linen and canvas.
Randomly what exactly is the premium fabric?
I truly have no idea.....it's feels like a dense cotton, but I'm probably wrong.
It's made from the shave tested arm hair of Lynn himself, woven by Tibetan monks who reside at Rongphu monastery at the North face of the great mount Qumolangma..... that's why it works so damn well!:dropjaw:Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxi
Ditto thatQuote:
Originally Posted by thebigspendur
Despite what i read about the polly webbing .. i think it was somthing like its like stropping on a car seat belt. Well i brought the english bridle IV. With the brown webbing. my favourite has all ways been natural linen. I can onestly say i love the sound and feel of the webbing. the leather is spot on to. So i would highly recomend the strop and webbing. I also think the lenght is perfect lenght . Paul recomended the strop to me and i'm glad he did .
Its a great strop a great price i like the webbing better than cotton and as much as my natural linen.
gary
Is the poly webbing the same kind of thing used in guitar straps? because i have an unused one that could be repurposed
It's probably close enough to get the job done. I would start very lightly with it and see what happens.
The guitar straps and the seat belts are a finer weave than the poly webbing we use, but people have said that they work.
Have fun,
Lynn
I just received the Lynn Abrams paddle strop from SRD. I must say that it is impressive. Good craftsmanship. I have one question. Does the smooth leather strop need any type of preparation prior actually stropping a razor on it? Thanks.
If the SRD paddle is the same as the SRD modular paddle, no treatment is needed. I heat my mod paddle up with a bit of hand rubbing first. It helps the draw on the Premium I leather.
Good luck.
I ordered a rich man strop from whippeddog.com and it has this poly webbing in addition to the leather strop. This thread is old and I'm wondering what people think about abrasives to use on the poly webbing strop? I have diamond spray and CBN sprays under 1 micron. Will a .25 or .5 micron spray work well on the poly strop? I also have a little .3 micron chromium oxide and .1 micron iron oxide powders. I think you mix these with oil then apply it.
I appreciate any suggestions about using the poly webbing strop.
From what I have read, the sprays seem to do much better on a felt surface, and the pastes (poweder and oil) do better on the webbing. I only have expereince with the diamonds spray on felt, but I have really liked it.
+1 for diamond spray and felt. I have had good success refreshing my edges with this setup.Quote:
Originally Posted by MattCB
Question about abrasives on the poly webbing strop. I got the rich man's strop from whippeddog.com and it has the webbing. I'd appreciate a recommendation on what if anything to apply to the poly webbing strop. I'll list the things I have now that I would consider using.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynn
CBN .1 micron spray
CBN .5 micron spray
diamond spray .25 micron
I also have some chromium oxide .3 micron powder that I would need to mix with oil prior to applying. Also some iron oxide .1 micron powder.
I have a feeling that any of the things I have would work and I'd get different answers from different people based on personal preference and experience. One thing I've considered is that if I start with .1 micron I could later apply the .25 or .5 micron sprays. The coarser grit abrasive would have it's effect as if the finer grit abrasive weren't there. But, applying the .5 micron spray first would eliminate being able to try the lower micron sprays.
The finest grit stone I have is a Shapton glass 16k stone. I don't know if that matters when choosing an abrasive. As far as grit goes I'm thinking the poly webbing strop should be somewhere between the finest grit stone a person has and the leather strop with no abrasive. If I'm thinking about that wrong please let me know. I may be overthinking this but once I apply something it won't come off (as far as I know). Or, can the poly webbing be used as a coarser strop than the leather without any abrasive at all? Any help with this I appreciate.
Jack
Plus One: The .5 diamond spray works well on the felt pads.Quote:
Originally Posted by senoreme
These charts seem to vary widely but here's one that will give you an idea of micron to grit conversion:
GRIT MESH MICRON
100,000 0- 0.5 1/4
60,000 0-1 1/2
14,000 0-2 1
13,000 1-2 1.5
9,000 2-3 2.5
8,000 2-4 3
5,000 2-6 4
4,500 4-6 5
2,800 5-10 7
1,800 6-12 9
1,400 8-20 14
1,200 10-20 15
1,050 12-25 18
800 20-30 25
600 20-40 30
500 30-40 35
325 40-50 45
285 50-60 55
240 60-80 70
225 80-100 90
160 100-120 110
100 120-160 150
So... According to this chart, 1/4 or 0.25 micron is 100,000 grit. After using 0.25 diamond on balsa after a Zulu Grey or JNat the difference under my microscope is subtle - the scratch pattern is largely unaltered but the edge is smoother - the difference after a good stropping is much more apparent.
John
I grabbed this graph from another thread on this site. I forgot which thread as I was doing random searches when researching stones to buy or researching sandpaper honing. I cannot seem to find it anymore. There are also charts but I find the graph to be easier to read. I did not make this graph.
I find it to be useful for choosing spray sizes. I also think the spray should have a higher grit compared to the highest grit stone you have. I could be wrong.
It shows the conversion of the different grit size standards into microns. It seems that not all grits are equal. I have naniwa stones so I follow the JIS line. I am not sure about shapton, maybe american standard? You can just check the microns the shapton 16k (above 1 micron, 1.5?) and just use a lower micron size.
I use a crox spray on fabric webbing and it works fine for me. I actually enjoy the sound. it is like feedback for me. Never tried felt yet.
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I have been using this one for years.
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Grit to micron to ANSI/CAMI, FEPA, JIS old and new, Shapton, Norton, DMT, Trizact cross reference. If it is not in there, it does not exist.
Now back on topic, I have been using a Straight Razor Designs 3" Premium IV (Long) English Bridle Strop for 6 or so years with the nylon with 0.5 micron chrome ox on the inside and plain on the outside. Works like a charm. Has about 3000 stropping sessions on it and it is about broken in.
Has anyone noticed any significant difference in how a poly-webbing strop performs with different abrasives? I have .3 micron chromium oxide on my strop now and it works great. I don't have any more chromium oxide to re-apply. How long do the abrasives last? I'm sure this is dependent on the amount of use. If I use it every day between every shave is an estimate that the CO will last one week or one year? I suppose I'll see a difference in performance. But when I do need to apply more abrasive is there any abrasive that works better than others? A lot of videos I've seen show folks using bars that they rub the strop with. Most have a green color I think. Right now I have sprays under 1 micron. I have .1 micron and .5 micron CBN and .25 micron diamond spray. When I want to reapply should I just use what I have on hand or should I get something else. I've been using the sprays on leather for my knives for 2-3 years and love them.
So anyone who has tried different abrasives can you make a recommendation? Use what I have or get something else? I have gone out of my way to experiment with stones and strops for knives and I really don't want to go through that again. I don't see why the sprays I have now won't work on razors as well as they work on knives.
The poly webbing looks like a material that if gotten wet it won't hurt it. If you have an abrasive on there and you want to get it off so you can use something of lower grit can you wash it off?
I appreciate any help.
Jack
In my opinion, the poly webbing works best with the crayon or thick paste type media. For the wet type media like the sprays, I like the Felt.
Have fun.
Agreed, I like to spray the polypropylene with a few sprays of water before applying the media for added longevity and saturation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynn
I got a linen replacement strop from SRD. It's called premium fabric on SRD. It is a lot stiffer than I expected. Do they get softer over time? Right now it's STIFF. If they do get softer is there a way to speed the process up? I'm new to hanging strops and the materials they are made of so I really don't know what to expect or how they will break in or not break in. I might like it better if it stays stiff over time but right now I'd say I prefer the webbing material. I am hoping the linen strop gets softer in time. Any thoughts?
I agree with Lynn. The noise was hard to get used to but the results are worth it all. I like my SRD webbing better than the one I got from TMQuote:
Originally Posted by Lynn
