Thread: Mastro Livi loom Strop

what can anyone tell me about these are the worth the money ? I want one and just want some feedback on how good the are?

I think worth the money is a personal judgement. I have 3 of them, go figure. 2 of the big ones and one of the small ones. I love the soft leather on them and they produce great results. But, I also have a couple of great paddle strops and a bunch of great hanging strops from several makers.

An A.D. is a terrible thing to waste..........

Have fun.

Yes Lynn is spot on. The Livi loom is really a nice tool to have. As Lynn stated the leather is the softest leather I have ever felt. Buttery soft.
But my favorite part is the Chrom Ox side, which I use all the time after honing.
Its well worth the expense.
Darl (Tarkus)

You said the magic words, "I want one". That means go ahead and buy it because if you don't you will always regret it and eventually you will buy it.

I don't usually go to chrom-ox but when I do it is on the Livi Loom. As has already been noted the leather has to be felt to be believed. It has been worth it to me. If I was offered the $ back I'd say no and keep my Livi loom.

Ya'll talked me in to it I ordered one its on the way can't wait, I have been using Lynn modular paddle strop and I think it the best thing since sliced bread

First the good news:
I deeply admire Mastro Livi's creativity and genius and his strops, which I still own the medium and travel versions of, work admirably well.
In fact, I am struggling to find a strop that comes close and replicates this silky feel during the shave and I do hope that either a Kanayama or Scrupleworks will fit that role.

Now the bad news: Mastro Livi's creativity is - at least in my experience - not matched by an equal amount of quality control.

Unfortunately, this applies both to Livi razors, which I own as well, and to his loom strops.

Regarding the loom strop:
In the first week the travel loom strop lost already one of the nuts in the upper plate that tensions the strop as neither of the two nuts were properly tightened, which is admittedly not a big thing and was remedied easily.
But within less than a year the thread in the same plate on the medium-sized strop is getting worn away by the thread in the handle.

I should mention that after stropping I tend to loosen the screw 2-3 turns to reduce the tension on the strop, but IMO a quality loom strop should be able to handle this without wearing out prematurely.
Well, at least cheapo Herold loom strops do...

I just noticed the last problem only a few days ago and have tried to lubricate the screw and check the adjustment of the base plate, but to no avail.

So the end result?
I still have the strop - at least until the Kanayama or Scrupleworks replacement arrives.

I also acknowledge that Mastro Livi's creations are to a large extent handmade and hence small variations and the need for adjustments should expected, but this should not impede their functionality.

N.B.
Before anyone suggests sending items back to Mastro Livi to be rectified:
(1) That is only practical within the EU, when you do not have to deal with the vagaries of Italian Customs {paying import duty on arrival on my side, then paying Italian import duty plus 22% VAT based on brandnew value on return to Italy for repair, and finally paying import duty again when the item is returned to me}.
(2) That makes only sense should Mastro Livi acknowledge that - based on several e-mails since when the razor was new - the item has some inherent flaw - which he regrettably failed to do.


I am truly sorry to be the bearer of bad news, and I know that Mastro Livi has a loyal following here and on other forums, but if I pay top dollar, I do expect that the goods not only look good but are also fit for the purpose.



B.

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Originally Posted by beluga

First the good news:
I deeply admire Mastro Livi's creativity and genius and his strops, which I still own the medium and travel versions of, work admirably well.
In fact, I am struggling to find a strop that comes close and replicates this silky feel during the shave and I do hope that either a Kanayama or Scrupleworks will fit that role.

Now the bad news: Mastro Livi's creativity is - at least in my experience - not matched by an equal amount of quality control.

Unfortunately, this applies both to Livi razors, which I own as well, and to his loom strops.

Regarding the loom strop:
In the first week the travel loom strop lost already one of the nuts in the upper plate that tensions the strop as neither of the two nuts were properly tightened, which is admittedly not a big thing and was remedied easily.
But within less than a year the thread in the same plate on the medium-sized strop is getting worn away by the thread in the handle.

I should mention that after stropping I tend to loosen the screw 2-3 turns to reduce the tension on the strop, but IMO a quality loom strop should be able to handle this without wearing out prematurely.
Well, at least cheapo Herold loom strops do...

I just noticed the last problem only a few days ago and have tried to lubricate the screw and check the adjustment of the base plate, but to no avail.

So the end result?
I still have the strop - at least until the Kanayama or Scrupleworks replacement arrives.

I also acknowledge that Mastro Livi's creations are to a large extent handmade and hence small variations and the need for adjustments should expected, but this should not impede their functionality.

N.B.
Before anyone suggests sending items back to Mastro Livi to be rectified:
(1) That is only practical within the EU, when you do not have to deal with the vagaries of Italian Customs {paying import duty on arrival on my side, then paying Italian import duty plus 22% VAT based on brandnew value on return to Italy for repair, and finally paying import duty again when the item is returned to me}.
(2) That makes only sense should Mastro Livi acknowledge that - based on several e-mails since when the razor was new - the item has some inherent flaw - which he regrettably failed to do.


I am truly sorry to be the bearer of bad news, and I know that Mastro Livi has a loyal following here and on other forums, but if I pay top dollar, I do expect that the goods not only look good but are also fit for the purpose.



B.

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I have his large loom and have had several of his razors and have had no issues other than sometimes needing to be honed before first use with his razors.

In general when you buy any Italian made product be it cars or other, logic in construction and reliability is often times absent.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

I have his large loom and have had several of his razors and have had no issues other than sometimes needing to be honed before first use with his razors.

In general when you buy any Italian made product be it cars or other, logic in construction and reliability is often times absent.

It's exactly the same with Italian women!

Careful what you wish for

;-)