Honing issue

I've been trying to hone a razor for a while now. I couldn't seem to get anywhere with it so I ended up taking it to my DMT 325. I was able to get a nice clean bevel all the way across the blade on the DMT. Passed TNT. Thinking I was finally getting somewhere, I took it to my Norton 1k to refine the bevel, but even though nothing changed but the hone, when I got done with the 1k the blade wouldn't even grab on the TNT.

I can't imagine what I'm doing wrong. I figured if the bevel is set its set. I don't know how I could possibly ruin a good bevel on the 1k stone with just a bit of light honing.

Should I skip the 1k and set the bevel on the DMT and move to the 4k/8k?

Thanks to anyone who can help. I hope I made some sense.

Don't skip anything except maybe the TNT :<0) Can you shave arm hair after the 1K ? If so move on to the 4 .

It shaves arm hair after the DMT. After the 1k it feels like a butter knife.

The hone may need lapping. Something is going on there. The 1k should just smooth out those 325 scratches without losing sharp.

Sounds like you really need to find a honing mentor. A dmt should be only used for lapping the stones and blade modifications. What is the razor you are trying to hone?

what brand is the razor?

A wade and butcher near wedge with some spine wear issues. To clarify, I only went to the dmt because I know it cuts faster and I figured it would dipped up the process since the 1k wasn't doing anything.

I hone a different razor in the same 1k two days ago and got a great bevel, smooth finish and comfortable shave. This one razor is just driving me crazy.

Where are you from? Wedges are a real pita for a veteran...you might be better off laying that one doen for 6 months and revisiting it again after you have more experience

are you honing with no tape?
If so add a layer and see if that will speed things up.

Theres also a possibility that there is a bur or wire edge . Theres many possibilities.

I honed with a layer of tape. I'm in New Mexico. Bigspendur has offered to show me a thing or two, but my work schedule is so busy that I haven't had time to take him up on the offer.

Take it! When you have the time. Its a great way to get sorted out! Im thinking of moving there just to get some tips from him! LOL. Good luck!

Take him up on it...whatcha waiting for?

A week when I don't have to put in 5 11 hr. days and 8 hrs. on the weekend. Combine that with needing time for sleep and a home life, it's just hard to squeeze anything else in.

Wedges with spine issues are by no means a simple hone...

I said this a few times "People like to make honing sound really easy and it is, right up until it isn't"

A pic of the razor would help, but honestly the best advice so far is already in this thread,,,

Set the razor aside until one of two things happens, You meet with Nelson, or you sort through enough honing issues over time to get through this one...


A pic really would help to get an idea of how bad the Edge vs Spine geometry is though

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Originally Posted by gssixgun

Wedges with spine issues are by no means a simple hone...

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The honorable Cudarunner once said that my version of hell would be a pile of heavy sheffields. He's right, ya know...

I just did a post on this subject recently.

When you are talking wedge and uneven wear on the spine, there is a good chance that you have not really set the bevel with the DMT and going to the 1K at that point will not help anything. If you have a loupe or microscope, take a look at the bevel and make sure that both sides of the bevel are flat from the top, all the way down to the edge. The top may reflect the uneven wear on the spine, but not matter so long as you get both sides of the bevel flat. Many times on these kinds of razors you will have one side flat and not the other and it seems like you are getting there, but you really are not and may have to work on one side more.

Having Nelson willing to help you out is a huge benefit, particularly if you are going to take on this kind of razor.

Have fun.