Novelty Restoration Part2

[Kentriv]

So, I got the dremel the other day from my Dad. I didn't know he had the flex shaft attachment. That was really handy. I am impressed by how much more dirt came off with the dremel, as I had at least 8 maas applications before I went to it. The scales look nicer now, and the little metal caps on the ends of the scales (is there a technical name for these) turned out to be silver. The blade it self buffed up even better than before, though I doubt the difference would be that apparent in photos.
I am keeping this dremel as long as I can haha.

So here is where I am stuck. All that is left to do pretty much is hone this baby up. But she is very dull (All razors are women. If you treat them so, then they will hurt you less). I am trying to figure out how high to start out on the pyramid. I was originally thinking in the 15 pass range to start out, but now I am thinking 20-25. I know less is best, but I can literally run my thumb across the edge without fear of injury. I know the Norton is a fast cutter, but is it that fast? I have no experience with such a stone. I have only honed kitchen cutlery. Any thoughts as to where to begin?

Matt

[FiReSTaRT]

Matt, I'd tape up the spine and...

1) Clean up and partially establish the bevel with about 70 trips on the 1k sandpaper
2) Another 50 trips on the 4k
3a) Remove the tape
4a) Do another 25-30 on the 4k
5a) Start the pyramids

or

3b) Start the pyramids

These figures are only guidelines but they should get you there if the hone is well lapped.

[Kentriv]

60-70 on the 1k sand paper to establish the bevel. I suppose that I should secure the sandpaper to a plate of glass or something flat some how correct?

[C utz]

If you have never honed a razor before, it is going to feel a bit odd trying to get the blance down with the technique. I would recommend trying on an old razor first (one with no personal history). When you do get the swing of honing and are use to holding the razor, lightly in one hand, and able to make one pass with the entire edge on the hone (watch the water ripple in front of the edge...this will show you where the contact is). Then it would not hurt to try a couple of passes on the 4K. You will see where the honing is taking place, and if there are any anomolies due to a warped spine (i.e. hone wear at only the tip and heel on one side, and the middle of the other). Taping up the spine is up to you. Personally, I never have. I believe that the width of the spine sets the angle of the edge and that both should wear uniformly...also, when you remove that tape and take the blade to the strop, that angle is now slightly off. However, with that said, some people swear by it. Each to their own....this is all, what works for you. As for the Norton being a 'fast cutter' that is a matter of perspective. If you have not used other hones the speed of one versus another should not matter.

Good luck and keep us posted!
Ask questions....

C utz

[Kentriv]

That even wear thing makes sense. you would probably want them to wear at the same rate.

I have been told that it is very hard to actually permanently damage a razor from honing it. And one of the real conditions of this razor was for me to restore it. Well, not really a condition, but my uncle really wanted to see my try to put an edge on it. I do see your point, and I will see if I can't find a cheap razor to practice the motion with.

I have never honed a razor, but I have honed kitchen knives on a wet stones before. I know that the motion is deferent, but the principles are similar correct? You still have to keep the angel level when honing a 8" chef knife. I expect the razor to be difference, but I am hoping that learning to control the chef knife on the hone will give me an edge on the learning curve. Any thoughts to this? I may be way off.

Matt

[jimmyray]

Don't mix razors and knives on the same hone, unless you lap the hone before using it with a razor. A curved kitchen knife will affect the hone differently than a flat razor.

[C utz]

.... I will see if I can't find a cheap razor to practice the motion with.

I have never honed a razor, but I have honed kitchen knives on a wet stones before. I know that the motion is deferent, but the principles are similar correct? ....

Matt

Let me know if you want a 'practice' razor. I have a bunch that would be good for practice-honing since they do not have much life in them. PM me or email me (taztu at hotmail).

Do NOT hone your razor like a knife....or, you will have a knife and not a razor. Check out this web site: http://www.en.nassrasur.com/razorcentral/
It should give you more information than you will need, but best of all it has pictures.

C utz

[Kentriv]

Oh no, I wouldn't do that. This norton is for razors only haha. Thanks for the tip though.

[Kentriv]

Let me know if you want a 'practice' razor. I have a bunch that would be good for practice-honing since they do not have much life in them. PM me or email me (taztu at hotmail).

Do NOT hone your razor like a knife....or, you will have a knife and not a razor. Check out this web site: http://www.en.nassrasur.com/razorcentral/
It should give you more information than you will need, but best of all it has pictures.

C utz

No worries. I wasn't implying the same technique as sharpening a knife. I was just saying that I have practice with a steady hand. I have Lynn's video and have watched it two or three times now. I will go back and watch it again before attempting. I will send you a PM about that practice razor.

Matt

[vulcano]

Maybe I'm wrong.....(I'm a newbie)

First of all you have to establish the bevel on the razor (or maybe it is already there)

I use the 1k Norton to establish the bevel, covering the spine with tape.....


If I see a bevel all over the razor, then I move to the 4k....