I am working on a couple of razors and before I finish them I want to make sure the blades are clean. Both are vintage carbon steel.
My question is, would it hurt them to run them through a dental autoclave?
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I am working on a couple of razors and before I finish them I want to make sure the blades are clean. Both are vintage carbon steel.
My question is, would it hurt them to run them through a dental autoclave?
From what I've read, an autoclave is probably too hot.Quote:
Originally Posted by gkofsky
When I need to disinfect a blade, I pull out my jug of Barbicide, mix according to directions, and let sit submersed for the recommended 10 minutes. Barbicide is an excellent product for that...kills everything.
The heat was my concern... I also have access to a cold sterilization bath, does the same as the barbacide.
Thanks for the advice!
Nervermind the heat, what about the heat + 100% humidity + oxygen?
Think about a carbon steel knife in a dishwasher. But worse.
They are not made to be autoclaved. Rinse them with desinfectant if you must.
But honestly, after sanding and polishing, there is nothing alive on that blade anymore.
+1 to Phranks response. IMO Barbicide can't be beat for what you are looking at doing.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
Honing removes steel, which is removing a lot more than an autoclave. I'd say don't worry about it.
What I do on a continuing basis is I've taken a tall narrow jar (like from olives), fill with mostly 92% rubbing alcohol and a tbs and a half of mineral oil., shake it up before each use and carefully dip the razor I had just used, rinsed off and dried in, and then with my finger distribute a bit of the oil film up to the pivot area. I can't remember which SRP member wrote about it first, but I've had no problem with my razors since I started using this method.
Soap and hot water is all that is needed
Im just curious has anyone considered the use of Iodophor / Betadine as a blade disinfectant? I've see open wounds painted with this stuff so it cant be too bad for you and it's bacteriacidal / virucidal properties are well known. I'm sure you would not want to get it on the scales of a razor as surely it would stain. Any thoughts?
Barbacide works great just follow the directions. I usually just pour an additional rocks glass of makers mark for my razors to sit in while I'm having one myself
I'm too stingy to share like that... :rofl2:Quote:
Originally Posted by HardCase
They will only talk to me if I share
Then you have to worry about betadine staining and the clean up of that stuff...There are many elegant solutions that are overkill. I suppose we could also check in to having them irradiated, but why when a simple barbicide bath or alcohol spray works just fine?Quote:
Originally Posted by Razorfaust
Amazes me the hoops people jump thru wanting to sterilize blades when soap and water is all you need.
Than you get all the posts from people wondering why the get water spots and rust on their blades.
The main reason i asked about iodophor is because i have gallons of it lying around that i use for my other hobby home brewing beer, it is used to sanitize all my brew ware. I was just wondering if i could get some razor sanitizing out of it and save a few bucks not having to buy barbacide.
Usually, I'll use soap and water to remove the oil/renwax off the blade, then wipe generously with rubbing alcohol (70% ethanol, not peroxide) to disinfect, then rinse with water to remove the white film left by the rubbing alcohol. Then dry. That's all you should need. Barbicide/Marvicide should also be more than enough.
Cheers.
That was me, but it was not to sterilize as it would be of little use for that. Its purpose was to remove water and to leave oil behind. It worked fine for me for years and I recommended it to others right until I had to move to the farm to take care of my father. That treatment in combination with the water there produced spotty corrosion, so I stopped recommending it. I believe it was Pinklather who had a similar problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razorfeld
You could just dip the blade in methylated spirit then wipe off be very careful not to get any on your scales though or it could be good night, on saying that I never bother storage honing a shaving with good personal hygiene is the only thing you need to worry about.
I do the same with Hendrick's gin. They don't really use more than a drop and I drink it after they've soaked for a few minutes. I take them out first.Quote:
Originally Posted by badg3r
I'm with pixlefixed,
My Ebay and antique store finds are washed and sanded with fine grit wet/dry paper with Dawn dishwashing detergent for lubrication and cleansing. The original finish inside and out is history and any bacteria or disease was washed away as well.
Part of the process in honing involves a good wipe, if not three or four, before inspection after each session. This process is repeated probably a dozen times or more and then happens again with the chromium oxide and again after the stropping on leather.
My face gets an after shave treatment that has alcohol in it.
I really don't feel the need to be concerned about sterization for my personal use.
Do's anyone sterilize Their toothbrush after each use??-----------------
A good 10min bath in barbicide. That's what the product was designed specifically for, it does not get any simpler than that.
92% alcohol = 8% water.
I was using straight isopropanol but that 92 percent stuff still evaporates much faster than water.
My observation is that %ge alcohol always leaves water behind on steel. No biggy if you wipe it off I guess.
For years my "sterilization" method has been as follows:
1. Upon initial acquisition and clean up spray the razor down several times with Scrubbing Bubbles (available for about $3 a can at any grocery store.)
2. After that repeat the process at around six month intervals or whenever you do a touch up hone.
3. Never Dull or other metal polish as required.
To date I have yet to contract tetanus or any other disease associated with blood borne pathogens.
I soak ours in a glass of peroxide for several hours, once a week, then get a new toothbrush every 2 months,,,:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by pixelfixed
Im looking at getting one of these
Steamed towels for face prep and after shave, plus can sterilise towels and razors. Not cheap per se, but a bit of luxury and functionality combined.
I guess I'm a purist!
Blades get a Barbicide soak after initial cleanup/restoration
Face prep includes a washcloth run under hot tap water
No problems to date. Haven't had a blade give me Ebola yet and the tap water gets too hot for my hands so it's sufficient to heat up whiskers.
At one point, I bought the high end Sonic Care that had a UV sterilization cabinet for the brush head. It (the cabinet portion) eventually died and I saw little benefit to paying hundreds for another.Quote:
Originally Posted by pixelfixed
The point is completely valid for daily use but fails a bit when you take the analogy further and consider buying and using used tooth brushes.Quote:
Originally Posted by pixelfixed
Hopefully you don't have any celluloid scales on your razors.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewJM