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Hi, The W&B on the right , you can see someone failed and removing the pin, so is there a awy I can unpin, and keep the scales?
both side the pin looks to have been sanded down enough so tht it will not stick high enough out to do much sanding without protecting the scales i some way.
Thanks for your advice.
if there is some space between the scales you can get a jewelers saw in there and cut the pin. or if you have a dremel with a very fine burr you can possibly grind them down enough to get them apart. BUT pry them apart VERY gently.
you could try a split point drill bit in a pin vise to get the pin out and then fill and re drill the scales to cover the scarring. Re pin it with stacked washers and Robert is your mothers brother.
What does the other side look like. if possible you could drill the other side oil the pin and push it though from the other side. then clean and if you have some broken scales that are dark horn you can file or sand a pile of dust mix with epoxy fill hole wait until it cures and redrill. I have done this and it' a %^^&&^^&&* but it worked.
My method is to create a small divot on the center of the exposed pin with a small round diamond point dremel bit like the one on left . Then carefully drill out the pin with 1/16" split point . Helps if you have access to a drill press and drill it out by bringing the razor up to the spinning bit. A little WD 40 around the pin can also help .Attachment 195656
Flush cut pliers under the washer!
I either break the scale or if I have a strong pin, the dikes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scareface
Some folks have great luck but not me. I divot and drill or jewelers' saw.
~Richard
thanks, the other side looks to have a little bit more of a head, but still the same situation, thank you all, what do ya'll think about a punch 1/8 looks to be the size mabe a little smaller then the pin, should I even attempt to punch it out, should I use the 1/8 punch or go one lower?Quote:
Originally Posted by Geezer
I don't have jewler saw..
thanks, Richard, thatbs the obviouse way to get the scale off:rock: but I would like to keep them(I guess you can call in practicing safe scale removal ).
also is there an oil to put on the run of the mill horn scales to keep them from drying out.
and don't know why anyone made a 3/8 blade but I have one, anyone know why , .. or what practical application there was for such a small blade?
Go lower 1/16 , WD-40 and let it sit, open and close multiple times. Neatsfeet oil is my choice for horn and bone scales.
3/8 ths works great for thin mustaches. and picking off ear and nose hairs.
thanks, off to lowew to get a smaller set ... well in the AM
and how long should I let it sit before poping it out ? 10 minutes?
Should get it done!
Even drilling is risky and can go wrong.
The safest and easiest way is to file the pinheads smooth until you reach the washer. Then lay the razor over a small hole with the bottom side of the pin, and gently tap out the pin with a driver. This leaves the scales intact, is veyr low risk, and will work even if the pin is crooked on the inside.
Once the pin is through the scales on that side, you can simply cut it off with pliers.
My method punch a hole out of a piece of masking tape same size as the washer then place over the washer and pin you wish to remove then very carefully file the pin head down until you reach the washer which usually comes loose by the time you get to that stage, now spray the pin with WD40 then place on a block of wood and with a small peening hammer and a small punch lightly tap the pin through just enough so you can just get hold of it with a set of pliers, now slowly turn and work the pin out.
Yes 10 min.Quote:
Originally Posted by whoever
Research Split Tip Drill bit. and lastly I found this link very helpful.
http://straightrazorpalace.com/works...ng-scales.html
You will do fine. remember that we all broke MANY scales while learning. Slow and steady saves the scales.
Ultrasoundguy is spot on with the split Tip Drills very effective in holding your location with the drill.
When ever you drill out a pin try drilling the pin cleanly thru the collar in order to save them. People just love to run the belt sander on the side flattening the pin head, but also destroying the collars.
Make it a habit in trying to save those collars every time. Reason being those vintage collars are no longer being fabricated and impossible to get, and also if your not happy with your pinning, you can safely disassemble your razor and try again without going thru your gear.
As said, place the razor over a block with a hole to accept the pin. Then tap the pin just enough to clear the top scale. Then lift off the top scale.
Do not try to punch the pin all the way through, unless it is coming out easily.
If the pin is bent and you force it, you will blow out the scale on the back side, then clip the pin and lift off the razor, clip again and work out the pin on the back scale.
Also be aware, some pins are steel, nails really.
Big fan of this method, combined with once a small amount of pin is exposed . Stop respray only WD40 and use the twisting and gently pulling. tension stop and twist in opposite direction, because you cant see a bent pin. If you just twist 20 degrees back and forth you can work it out. I wrap the scales just below the pin with electrical tape so I dont pull too hard and break the scale. This method gives the whole area stability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Euclid440
Thanks , I won't had thought that the pin could be bent , also thx you and the above posers for the tips. . I was initially going to punch and not tap it out until I read this.Quote:
Originally Posted by ultrasoundguy2003
Anyplace you know if to get pin stock and washers cheaper than Lowes (1/8" brass)
I assumed just doing this on a block of wood with a hole for the pin would had been enough support to not blow out the scale on the underside.
Last tip I swear.
http://straightrazorpalace.com/works...-pins-out.html
I only say this because I was/am you and broke way to much because I hadnt been in the library long enough or searched the right terms.
Ok double last tip everything in one place link.
http://straightrazorpalace.com/works...wers-here.html
Best of luck, now I will shut up and let you digest all of the communities knowledge.
with the etching, the keep what seemms to be original darkening, any tricks when using polishing wad , other then little to no pressure when moving the wadding around?
