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    Make a wedge and pin a couple pairs of Popsicle sticks. Use a third stick as the blade.

    They are very unforgiving, if you can pin them you will have it down, good enough to do real scales. Try pinning with and without annealing.

    Couple bucks for a bag of 25 or so from Wally or Craft store, they come in handy for cleaning, clip one end flat & wrap with steel wool.

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    This question was already answered fairly well. Besides my own mistakes and poor tools.. the other question:
    Basically, err maybe not so basic.. when the scales are drilled with holes 90 degrees, and then the wedge drilled separately, and then all put together.. the holes going through the scales are now no longer lined up along the same plain. When the pin is pushed through, it will be forced to turn with an angle relative to the taper angle of the wedge. Higher tolerance than exact allows for holes drilled in the scales that allow the pins to be at angles other than 90 degrees. As a couple guys suggested the wedge can be drilled a bit wider as well. Without these lenient tolerances the pin would surely be bent. But maybe pins are more forgiving and even still there would be no problem.
    As Euclid440 suggested: I was over thinking it. Probably because others get by just fine without worrying about such minutiae...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euclid440 View Post
    Make a wedge and pin a couple pairs of Popsicle sticks. Use a third stick as the blade.

    They are very unforgiving, if you can pin them you will have it down, good enough to do real scales. Try pinning with and without annealing.

    Couple bucks for a bag of 25 or so from Wally or Craft store, they come in handy for cleaning, clip one end flat & wrap with steel wool.
    Lol that's awesome I'm gonna try that. Though today I pined three razors very well, that sounds like a good exercise! Reminds me of something we would do at a straight razor summer camp!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainaman View Post
    I remembered one step that probably leads to my result, after I glue the wedge and the scales together I clean up with my pin vise and that must be making the holes flush so the pin goes through straight.
    What do you mean by clean up your pin vise?
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    Wedge pins will nearly always have a minor bend to suit the holes
    Don't stress it.
    Pivot pins should straight.
    When pinning I only allow about half a pin diameter outside the washer to peen usually works fine for me
    YMMv
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    Sounds like someone is pining for some pinning information. LOL!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by furious View Post
    Sounds like someone is pining for some pinning information. LOL!!
    Lmao! Oh God I just realized that! Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeT View Post
    What do you mean by clean up with your pin vise?
    Go in the hole and twist a few times, it cleans up the inside of the hole. If there is some misalignment during gluing it will be taken care of as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mainaman View Post
    Go in the hole and twist a few times, it cleans up the inside of the hole. If there is some misalignment during gluing it will be taken care of as well.
    Okay gotcha, since joining SRP, all this feedback has really helped me.. man I should've come out of lurking sooner!!!
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    Also I advise against using glue. It is not necessary, and makes it impossible to start over if something goes wrong.
    If you pin correctly, the wedge will stay in place because of the pressure caused by pinning.
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