I'm thinking about purchasing this blade, something strange on blade pictures

So I am about to get this razor for fairly cheap and I was just wondering what this kind of damage would be called? I don't think it's considered pitting or what's underneath it is pitting is my concern... I think this would be called tarnish, a little bit of 600 grit greaseless and some polish looks like it should clean it up... From what I understand for the most part all razors can be brought back from the dead with work but pitting is something to avoid just because u might have to grind out too much of the razor to remove it.... Let me know what ha think... As always thank you!

Fonz


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I almost think that it's so much on the edge it might be compromised

No, No, No, my friend, that blade is done.

Cell rot has eaten the blade badly and weakened the steel that remains.

It is doubtful that you could put an edge on it and even if you did it, would ever hold an edge.

Do not waste your money, google Cell rot and learn to recognize it in the early stages, even in the early stages. Some razors and scale styles are more prone to Cell Rot.

it can be very frustrating/impossible, trying to get an edge on one. Do yourself a favor, especially when starting out, Buy razors in the best condition you can afford, Restoration begins…at purchase.

Really? It's rust and likely quite deep.

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Originally Posted by Euclid440

No, No, No, my friend, that blade is done.

Cell rot has eaten the blade badly and weakened the steel that remains.

It is doubtful that you could put an edge on it and even if you did it, would ever hold an edge.

Do not waste your money, google Cell rot and learn to recognize it in the early stages, even in the early stages. Some razors and scale styles are more prone to Cell Rot.

it can be very frustrating/impossible, trying to get an edge on one. Do yourself a favor, especially when starting out, Buy razors in the best condition you can afford, Restoration begins…at purchase.

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Yeah I try to but those ones are so cheap they are so temping... But I usually get pretty good looking razor for the most part... Like this is my next line of purchase

Unless it's free or very close to it I would leave that blade alone. It will be LOTS of work and the steel could very well be shot near the edge

That razor was a dubl duck and thought maybe it could be fixed with some grinding and knew that the damage was on the edge which was a concern... When I think of rust I think of the reddish residue that's appears on metal didn't think this was rust...

here re are the next line of buys from some people we will see, usually not so much damage Attachment 211086Attachment 211087Attachment 211088

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Originally Posted by rodb

Unless it's free or very close to it I would leave that blade alone. It will be LOTS of work and the steel could very well be shot near the edge

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Okay so kind of the same thing I was thinking p, as long as the damage isn't all over the edge leave her alone... It is 6.50 for a dubl duck that's the only reason I considered it

Buy it if you like 2/8 blades because that is what will be left after restoration. I am a bit worried about the blade of the Wostenholm pipe razor you show. Are you sure it does not have a huge crack running from the toe more or less parallel to the spine?

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Originally Posted by Kees

Buy it if you like 2/8 blades because that is what will be left after restoration. I am a bit worried about the blade of the Wostenholm pipe razor you show. Are you sure it does not have a huge crack running from the toe more or less parallel to the spine?

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Yeah I had the same concerns and I asked the seller and he said that he just rubbed it off he said it look d like it was from when the blade was sitting in the scales good eye!

Yeah, that blade looks shot. A hollow ground razor can have a blade that is like foil near the edge, so trying to remove moderate/heavy rust is risky.
When I bought my first couple of razors, I thought of the bad rust as generally being red on blades. Black rust is just as bad! It can seem like it is just on the surface (because it feels smooth to the touch) but there is pitting underneath it. I've noticed a couple sellers that refer to black rust as "patina". That is a mistake or outright lie.

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Originally Posted by Dafonz6987

Yeah I had the same concerns and I asked the seller and he said that he just rubbed it off he said it look d like it was from when the blade was sitting in the scales good eye!

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Yeah, that seems to be pretty common for blades to have a line where the blade meets the scales. My main razor right now has a black line in the same spot.


If you want to sell that second Wostenholm, I would be willing to pay what is cost brand new. :deal:

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Originally Posted by Dafonz6987

That razor was a dubl duck and thought maybe it could be fixed with some grinding and knew that the damage was on the edge which was a concern... When I think of rust I think of the reddish residue that's appears on metal didn't think this was rust...

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To have to even consider this ugly duckling only suggests that you must really want to join the Dubl Duck owners club Fonz.

As you are a newb, my advice to you is to avoid the hype.

If you can hone and want to do some hunting on eBay, you will find much better deals on lesser known-hyped solingen razors that are in good to mint condition and will shave superbly.

Double Duck are notorious for Cell Rot, probably why they are in such high demand, there are so few nice ones left, especially with the Cracked Ice and clear scales.

Vintage Crack Ice, Fax Tortoise and Transparent scaled razors are always suspect, learn to ID cell rot.

The other two are Horn and bone and look to be in good condition.

The so called Cell Rot problem exists with any razor with celluloid scales. I have an Otto Deutsch which Max miraculously brought back to life.

That said, the above blade is completely shot, and far beyond repair.

As for "so few left", "few" can be a rather relative term...

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Yeah, that blade looks shot. A hollow ground razor can have a blade that is like foil near the edge, so trying to remove moderate/heavy rust is risky.
When I bought my first couple of razors, I thought of the bad rust as generally being red on blades. Black rust is just as bad! It can seem like it is just on the surface (because it feels smooth to the touch) but there is pitting underneath it. I've noticed a couple sellers that refer to black rust as "patina". That is a mistake or outright lie.


Yeah, that seems to be pretty common for blades to have a line where the blade meets the scales. My main razor right now has a black line in the same spot.


If you want to sell that second Wostenholm, I would be willing to pay what is cost brand new. :deal:

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Lmao that's funny actually lost the bidding on the first by 1 dollar being $41 but I got the second for 15.50 shipped so hey I'll buff her out and I'll gladly take the $3......... Times inflation for the last 50-75 years lol

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To have to even consider this ugly duckling only suggests that you must really want to join the Dubl Duck owners club Fonz.

As you are a newb, my advice to you is to avoid the hype.

If you can hone and want to do some hunting on eBay, you will find much better deals on lesser known-hyped solingen razors that are in good to mint condition and will shave superbly.

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I actually had no idea what or any thing about dubl duck other than noticing the bids going a bit higher for those razors which is the only reason I was interested in the blade... Of course I'm building my collection of razors I currently own 17 razors within the month the first was a custom from bluesman 7 which snowballed into what I have now... I will clean polish and home all the razors and shave with them I probably won't want to get rid of any of them but convincing my wife to budget this much money a month on razors maybe quite a hard ticket to sell lol but really I went into this only to learn a new hobby and do something with my free time, which is a lot as of late is a lot lol...

On EBay, right now there are 9 Double Duck Razors for sale, from $30 to 275. All show signs of Cell Rot, even the ones that have been heavily buffed and “Restored”.

Be careful...

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Lmao that's funny actually lost the bidding on the first by 1 dollar being $41 but I got the second for 15.50 shipped so hey I'll buff her out and I'll gladly take the $3......... Times inflation for the last 50-75 years lol

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I realize they are yours and you can do what you want but buffing/ polishing those razors will likely damage the blade etching which is a large part of their charm and I personally think they are very nice as is, maybe a light clean and hone up would be in order but not much more.

Yes, clean with 000 steel wool and WD40, sand with 1000 grit Wet & Dry.

If you are going to buff, some White, Blizzard and Red rouge on a cotton wheel, will make them shine without removing the etch, or some metal polish and a paper towel after some 2k Wet & Dry.

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Originally Posted by edhewitt

I realize they are yours and you can do what you want but buffing/ polishing those razors will likely damage the blade etching which is a large part of their charm and I personally think they are very nice as is, maybe a light clean and hone up would be in order but not much more.

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Yeah I don't plan on touching the ones with etching... As you can tell I have a common theme in my purchases lol but i have a bunch of blades that just need restore work and no etching so I plan on learning on those before I do( if anything ) to my blades with etching