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Hey man, that's pretty cool!
My Herder has been my favourite for 2 years. Really good blades IMHO. If I had the equipment to finish them would buy them.
Great Find! I ordered a set. A add on tease came up with the polish cloth. These are excellent polishing cloths. And guys if your wife complains when the delivery shows up, give her the free paring knife. :tu
I am really debating buying these, I mean it seems they will just need a good sanding and then polish to get them ready for scales, but I am a bit taken back by the 8 dollars in shipping.
Anyone know if these are heat-treated yet or still soft? Only says "blanks".
I looked at those also but I noticed that the ad said that you get an assortment of four blades not necessarily ones the same size as those in the picture.
Wonder what the case really is?
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Originally Posted by Kenrup
I'd try that, but I do all the cooking in the house, any chance I could get a free set of scrapbooking scissors instead?
They will need a lot of finish work, that's obvious.
I'd be concerned about getting a set of 3/8 or worse...
now if you could request a certain size... :shrug:
They seem to be at least partially ground so, yes, they are heat-treated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philadelph
I'd get a set, but they only ship within the US...
if you look around on the site, they also sell the blades individually.
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Originally Posted by moviemaniac
Klaus
i'm in canada and have ordered 2 sets from them
i had to phone them and i think you can also order by e-mail for international
Thanks, Andre!Quote:
Originally Posted by badboris
I'm off having a talk with my credit card :D
I ordered a few of these. Judging from the color/finish they have been heat treated and tempered. I might be wrong. I also guess that they are a single concave grind and a bit thick. It looks like a blank that was destined to be a full hollow eventually. I expect that it will need a bit of grinding to be usable as a single concave razor.
Just my two cents,:)
I got the set. Now what. Do they just need to be ground, polished, and sharpened only. They are rough, but are they tempered and ready to finish? Seems like a fun project.
Headdoc
Can you post pictures?Quote:
Originally Posted by headdoc
witch ones did you get 4/8 5/8 6/8?Quote:
Originally Posted by headdoc
I also ordered some. They should be arriving in a day or two. If you want to wait then I will take mine to Mike Blue and ask him. He has a Rockwell tester and that might be useful. Right now, based on the color and texture in the pic, I think they have been heat treated and possibly tempered as well. My assumption is that these have not been ground so they are a single concave shape direct from the stamping machine.
On mine, at a minimum, I will temper them again at 400 degrees for 1 hour, let cool to room temperature, which happens quicly, then back in the oven for another hour. The Rockwell test wil be informative.
Once we are sure that they have been heat treated and tempered then it is a matter of grinding, polishing and sharpening.
This will be fun,:)
The set I received consisted of 1- 7/8 x3 1/8 inch spike full hollow, 1- 5/8 x 2 7/8 inch French point @1/4 hollow, 1- 5/8 X 1 3/8 French point wedge, & 1- 3/8 X 2 3/4 inch round point 1/2 hollow. I don't have my camera with me. The 7/8 and the wedge are not stamped on the tang and are more blueish then the other two. They are stamped #304 and #37. The pictures on the SMKW are the same as what was sent. I'll probable have pictures up later.
Headdoc
Sounds like a good assortment! Mike Blue emailed me today and said I could bring the razors to his shop for testing. This should be interesting.
How thick is the edge on your razors?
I don't have a micrometer fine enough. They are less then .5 mm. THe edges are squared off. They look like they are ready for final grinding to get the spine straight and then polishing b4 sharpening then honing. Two of the blades do not contain company stamping. They are also a different color. You'll see when you get yours. I am not going to mess with them until I hear from you about what the steps are to finish these. I am looking forward to continuing on this thread.
Headdoc
I will post what Mike Blue nad me find out!:)
I drove by smokey mnt knife works tonight and got a set of them tonight. 3 out of the 4 blades are going to be usable but one is the smallest I have seen haven't measured it yet but its mainly a spine with an edge on it, maybe 2/8 doubt 3/8 but will measure it to be sure all have a uniforn coating of rust have to see whats under that.
Forgive me, but I am a total noob in this. If someone was to get some of these blanks. How hard is it to get more scales and pins and things of that nature, and is there a video that explains how to do the restoration or is it just a figure it out on your own kind of thing?
Thanks,
Photoguy67
Hello Doc,Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc
Is it rust or firescale from the heat treating? or both?:shrug:
I do not know for sure but it looks like the razor blanks have not been thru the final grinding process. The final grinding is where the blank, now a single concave ( 1/4 hollow aka wedge) grind is both thinned out on the main section of the blade and a second grind is made along the edge making it a full hollow or Hamburg grind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Photoguy67
One thing is for sure, that a lot of grinding/sanding will need to be done. Maybe even heat treating & tempering.
Sorry,:(
Hey Randy,
NOT a problem...
We have 'people' here that know how to do this...... :D
C utz
hey Randy
If I had to guess I would guess a little of both. My opinion is these have at least been heat treated but dont hold me to it.
For the price, bought a package of these blades and one of the big 8/8 blades. I don't intend to finish the smaller blades but do not have the skills or equipment to do the grinding and potential heat treating that they may require. Who among you all has these skills and would be willing to finish one or both blades to include scaling? Please PM with details and pricing. Thanks in advance.
OK, update time. I went to Mike Blues workshop today. Mike used his Rockwell testing machine and found that the edge was a Rockwell of 59.8 and the shank-tang came in at 55. One of the tests chipped the blade along the edge. From that Mike looked at the grain size and said it is a fine grain steel. We talked a bit about what needed to be done re heat treating and he suggested a 2 hour temper at 400 degrees just to be on the safe side.
The razor appears to have had the "flashing" from the die ground off but there is still a lot of grinding to go. The razor blank has been formed for a 1/1 or full hollow, bi-concave grind. It is not a 1/4 hollow, single concave grind now and due to the thinness of the grind below the spine it probably cannot be made into single concave grind, wedge without also grinding away some of the thick, deep spine. I will play with the chipped razor, shortening it and grinding it on an 8" wheel to see what happens.:)
I will report back in about one week.
Randy, Thanks for the update. Keep posting about what to do to refine the blades. This does look like a fun project.
Headdoc
What's happened in your work with these blades. I have not started to work on mine yet- time factors as well as waiting for suggested starts (heat treating, tempering, etc.)Quote:
Originally Posted by randydance062449
Headdoc