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10-24-2009, 04:34 AM #1
Torx screw etc pivot pin question
I don't own any razors that have the torx screw style "adjustable" pivot pin design. Glen had mentioned in his Hart Razor review that such a design makes for necessary retightening, etc.
Can anyone share opinions on whether or not lock tite, or other thread locking substances would work on locking down a screw type pivot pin? Don't they make different strength's of lock tite? If the "permanent" type was used, would the flex of the razor eventually work the screw loose in the bolt?
Info would be appreciated. Thanks.
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10-24-2009, 04:57 AM #2
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Thanked: 267I personally do not see the need for screws to hold a razor together. Pins do their job amazingly well and remain tight for decades if done correctly. One can always tighten them with a spoon if need be. Torx stuff is alright, but is it really necessary? For me no. YMMY.
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10-24-2009, 05:12 AM #3
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Thanked: 85Chris,
Henkel does indeed make different formulations of Loctite. In fact, the have far more types then I realized. Here is the link to see the Loctite threadlocking products.
I use barrel pivots with Torx screws on many of my razors. I like them. I have found that if the barrel doesn't extend into the scales, the screws sometimes work themselves loose as you open and close the razor. If the barrels go into the scales, then there doesn't seem to be any twisting on the screws and they stay put.
If I was having Torx screws come loose, I would (and have) used the type of Loctite that you can remove if you need to.
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10-24-2009, 06:00 AM #4
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Thanked: 13249Yes locktite works just fine, I use the Permatex (blue) medium to lock in torx and other screws that find there way onto razors...
But I echo the sentiments that Richard does too,, with one question WHY??? I understand that for awhile everyone thought that all the adjustables were way cool but, I am not sure if you noticed but I don't think one of us Restorers still uses them, unless they are specifically requested...
They just don't work as well as the old fashioned peened pins IMHO...Last edited by gssixgun; 10-24-2009 at 12:57 PM.
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10-24-2009, 11:40 AM #5
Just for some adjustable pin love, I'll say that for a newbie they're great. I used them on several of my first attempts at restorations and they do the job easily. They're also useful when doing mock ups. I always hand tightened mine and never used Loctite.
That being said, I posted a few threads detailing my recent endeavors in peening and now that I have the materials and am comfortable with the process, I'm replacing all my adjustable pins with peened rod.
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10-24-2009, 11:52 AM #6
I would be careful with strong or permanent locking agents - generally these are quite permanent (meaning, you'd break the tools or the screws before unlocking). Lightest one might work.
I've also heard of nail polish been used to lock down screws. After tightening, apply minute amount on the bolthead, not in the threads before. And don't let the SWMBO see you having a rummage in her makeup bag. However, I don't know how permanent it would be or how it would work on razor.
Last edited by ursus; 10-24-2009 at 11:56 AM.