Thread: Honing on Wet & Dry… Oh no…

So the point of the thread is, try it.

Don’t just accept someone’s opinion, especially when it just does not make sense.

Wet & Dry is just an abrasive, we know what the abrasive is, and the grit size. It’s 1k, not 60 grit. Wet & Dry is a bit more abrasive than most stones, but not as aggressive as a diamond plate. If the spine was taped, how much damage could one do, how dangerous can it be?

Yes, new guys can mess up an edge, on even the best, most expensive stones. So, it not the abrasive, it’s the driver.

The original poster, had a 4/8k stone and was asking, if the cost of a 1k to set the bevel, on a razor or two, was justified, or could he just use, 1k W&D for a one-time use.

He got two answers, yes and no. This post disproves, the No answer and the reason. It is not recommended as a replacement to a 1k, heck, a King 1K, is only $20, but it certainly can be used.

There are many myths in this hobby, as said, that are just the result of an opinion, that can be easily tested. One of my favorites is the anti-paste bias, that paste will convex an edge, to the point of making an edge un-shaveable.

So, as I said in the original post, when you see a statement, that does not make sense, try it, and see what happens. There are many ways to hone a razor, some unconventional, but yield stellar results.

Yes, there are easier methods, with consistent results, but there is no single way, to hone a razor. Common sense is still a key, Honing Skill set.

As much as I find some of these topics interesting, I have to be honest, they are more confusing than anything else. This is not brain surgery and I believe that everybody develops their own method once they are set on the basics.

I agree people should try new things and come to their own conclusions on what works and what doesn't. But just because it doesn't make sense to some, it doesn't mean is wrong.

That's why I don't ask for opinions, I just go my merry way about it. If I screw up, I go back to the drawing board and figure out what I did wrong.

Originally Posted by hrfdez

...But just because it doesn't make sense to some, it doesn't mean is wrong.

That's why I don't ask for opinions, I just go my merry way about it. If I screw up, I go back to the drawing board and figure out what I did wrong.

+1. Yes yes and YES! I research the boards here to get a general understanding of both sides of an issue, talk via PM to people I trust, and then I learn by doing. I have had amazing results and learned a ton and I continue to learn. So.... Good night.....I said good night!

Originally Posted by Steel

+1. Yes yes and YES! I research the boards here to get a general understanding of both sides of an issue, talk via PM to people I trust, and then I learn by doing. I have had amazing results and learned a ton and I continue to learn. So.... Good night.....I said good night!

Hehe! Same here, I have got tons of useful information and I have incorporated that knowledge into my own method and style.

Originally Posted by Euclid440

It is not recommended as a replacement to a 1k, heck, a King 1K, is only $20, but it certainly can be used.

Exactly the point

Originally Posted by Steel

They all have "possibility for error". Guns don't ruin razors. People ruin razors.

Oh Lord,,, he found a way to link guns & honing razors !

Originally Posted by Steel

They all have "possibility for error". Guns don't ruin razors. People ruin razors.

Of course there is a chance of error with any system, I like it when the odds are in my favor.

Like I always say, "There are many roads to sharp," and it seems that there are almost as many of those roads as there are honers on this forum. I always enjoy reading about the "roads" of more experienced honers for things I can try for myself per Euclid's suggestion.

My road so far has been pretty pedestrian, with the usual Norton 1k, 4/8k, Nani 12, PHIG, and when I can play on friends' stones, sometimes a Thuri, Gokumyo 20k, or other more exotic stone. I would like to try the wet-dry some time, as I have a shop full of it.

In fact, given world enough and time (and money to buy them!!), I would like to try all those roads: cotis, J-Nats, Zulus, Arks, all of them seem like they would be fascinating to learn and explore!

Originally Posted by ScoutHikerDad

Like I always say, "There are many roads to sharp," and it seems that there are almost as many of those roads as there are honers on this forum. I always enjoy reading about the "roads" of more experienced honers for things I can try for myself per Euclid's suggestion.

My road so far has been pretty pedestrian, with the usual Norton 1k, 4/8k, Nani 12, PHIG, and when I can play on friends' stones, sometimes a Thuri, Gokumyo 20k, or other more exotic stone. I would like to try the wet-dry some time, as I have a shop full of it.

In fact, given world enough and time (and money to buy them!!), I would like to try all those roads: cotis, J-Nats, Zulus, Arks, all of them seem like they would be fascinating to learn and explore!

I agree. The road is fun to travel and once you find your coordinates is even better :-)

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

He isn't asactive on SRP as he used to be, but when I first came around Randydance took me under his wing and taught me a lot about honing. Randy sometimes used 1k sandpaper to set a bevel, and he said it works fine, but warned that you had to be careful. 'It' won't ruin on edge, but 'you' might if you're not watching what you're doing, using too much pressure, and all that. I guess the same could be said for lapping film, or any 1k stone. It ain't so much the arrow, as it is the Indian.

Exactly! Just because something can be done doesn't mean that anyone can do it. I can just see the noob thinking "oh that curled wet/dry won't matter, the razor will push that right down as it goes over it."