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    Quote Originally Posted by prodigy View Post
    You are verifying my point as you tell me I'm wrong. The plate IS wearing out. The DIAMONDS are not. We are in agreement. Somewhere along the lines of our discussion we created confusion. Diamonds are doing 1 of 2 things in this scenario. They are fracturing, or they are coming loose from the plate. There are no particles that can erode them, not even an ark...
    No, we aren't in agreement. Yes, diamonds CAN and DO "erode" as you put it - actually it's abrasion, not erosion, but that's semantics. How do you think they are cut into faceted shapes? They are abraded using - wait for it - diamond dust! Or did you think that all the facets just happened to lie along the stones' natural cleavage lines? There is also a significant difference in their ability to be abraded based on the direction that they are abraded. This can be as much as a two order of magnitude difference. This is one of the reasons that the diamonds are carefully examined and oriented before they are faceted as jewels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euclid440 View Post
    or applying too much pressure can cleave the diamond in two.
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    How do you think they are cut into faceted shapes? They are abraded using - wait for it - diamond dust! Or did you think that all the facets just happened to lie along the stones' natural cleavage lines?
    Brings to mind a show I saw on TV when I was a kid. A diamond cutter with a mallet and a wedge taking a huge diamond and cutting it into different shapes. IIRC they said that one miscue and he would end up with dust. Needed to be an expert in the field.

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    if this perpetuates the argument , oh well, guys , if I,m drilling with a diamond bit, into rock that is under heavy pressure(10,000 feet down hole)I,m drilling into formations that are softer than my diamond bit. sometimes we loose the cutting diamonds, but this isn't to tell anyone their wrong or right, I have to change my bit because of the rounding off of the corners , so diamonds will wear down, even against a softer substrate.

    now after a bit hits my doghouse its sent to the lab. there I get a report and analysis on the wear and failure points of the bit, almost always there is a heavy wear of the sharp corners.

    now under normal circumstances, I agree is tough to wear a diamond in short periods of time, but they do wear. I,ll have a bit on surface hear in the next week that has to be swapped because of the wear.

    but really guys is this worth arguing about? not really its just shaving! shave on my friends,( Kyle, diamonds aside, the razor is smooth still)

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    Are you conceding that some abrasion does occur? The linked blog post only further proves my point. Todd (an "internet" friend of mine, BTW - we've discussed this and several other of his blog posts over email quite a few times) only did a few minutes worth of break-in on the depicted diamond plate and he mentions in several places that the diamonds have been worn - or "smoothed" - at the points on the diamonds that made contact with the Shapton hone.

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    Now come on guys,,,,,

    Prodigy,, weren't you trying to spell " Studebaker".,, ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirlau View Post
    Now come on guys,,,,,

    Prodigy,, weren't you trying to spell " Studebaker".,, ??
    Dang auto correct...

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    Yeah, an auto correct would be nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prodigy View Post
    https://scienceofsharp.wordpress.com...late-break-in/
    Its not my fault you can't comprehend the difference between rounding edges and fractured edges. I'm done, I give up. As they say, you can't fix stupid.
    BTW, here is one of the first links from the Google search "can diamond be abraded" - which I advised you to do right from the start:

    Brian Gavin The Diamond Cutter » DIAMOND REPAIR SERVICE

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