Thread: Zowada Website - double bevel info. updated

I've just update the razor care and double bevel honing sections of my web site. I hope it makes a little more sense. Or, at least, is not totally confusing.

www.tzknives.com/razorcare.html

www.tzknives.com/twobevel.html

Thanks for your patience with my weird ideas.

Tim Z.

I like this part....

Please understand, this is for normal honing and does not cover chip or rust removal.

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The rust removal part should be edited to if sent back rusty I will keep it and never send you another

Nice work thanks.

Thanks Tim.
The double bevel pictures are interesting. I think I'll give it a try, just to see how it goes.

Great stuff Tim. Thank you.

Jordan

+1 on the double bevel .. I might try this idea out actually ..

Thanks for the links
ps. lovely razor I'm sucha sucker for patterned metal ( Damascus ) blades

Garry

Very interresting read there Tim, thanks for sharing

Although if I try this, and it works, I am going to be cussing you, you do realize this, that I will be using your name in vain, as I re-hone 50+ razors

I've been really surprised how well this works.

Originally Posted by Tim Zowada

I've just update the razor care and double bevel honing sections of my web site. I hope it makes a little more sense. Or, at least, is not totally confusing.

www.tzknives.com/razorcare.html

www.tzknives.com/twobevel.html

Thanks for your patience with my weird ideas.

Tim Z.

Tim thank you for contributing valuable information to our community it is greatly appreciated. Look forward to meeting you in Person Next Friday.

James,

The reason is because the number of strokes you hone depends on the AREA of the bevel you are working on.

The number of strokes goes up as a square of the dimensions, so if you double the width of the bevel, you can easily multiply by 4 the number of strokes needed.

By taping, you tip the razor up and are contacting a much smaller area of the bevel, which means the honing goes orders of magnitude faster.

The Clauss I just did has about a 3/64" wide bevel after I ground out the chips. But after taping, the the secondary bevel is less than 1/4 the width of the full bevel. I probably over-did the polishing with the 8K at 40 strokes. I believe it could have been accomplished with 1/2 that. Polishing out the scratch marks without taping would have hundreds and hundreds of strokes, I know, I've done it before.

That's why I said it is great for restorations where the bevel has gotten wider due to having to grind out big chips. It really speeds things up.

I lathered up the other side and shaved again with this razor. This time, no bleeders, no irritation--I just backed off on the pressure. You really need a very light touch with such a sharp razor.

I have always been fascinated with creating a straight line on the edge.

A while back, I tried creating that line by dragging the edge on the stone, point down, the blade perpendicular to the stone. It created an awesome straight line but of course, a totally dull blade.

Then I tried to hone carefully so that i *just* reached the point where the two bevels met again. My skill was not so good, and this never really worked.


However, now this secondary bevel thing gives me an idea.

If I get a razor close, then make a flat on the edge, it might be a lot easier to get the two sides of the bevel to meet with two layers of tape, i.e., creating the secondary bevel.

The next step would be to remove the tape and *carefully* hone the sides down till just *before* they meet. This would, theoretically, create the absolute minimum size secondary bevel. The idea would be to make this bevel smaller and smaller until it just disappears. It seems like this might create a better edge.

I don't want to try it with a restored razor with a wide bevel though. I need to do it with something already in good shape...maybe my filly.

Whaddya think, am I off in la-la land? Probably.

Paul