Thread: Honing out a chip on a Filarmonica

How much work would it take to clean this chip out? I only have a D8EE stone and a chromium oxide strop so far. What else would I need? Thanks.

I should add that the owner wants to trade this razor for a Norton 4000/8000 stone. He can't buy Nortons where he lives. With shipping across the pond, it'd cost about $115 USD and I don't think the razor would sell for that much.

I would say a 1k stone....dont know if the D8EE is the same

and some tape to protect the spine

Originally Posted by IsaacRN

I would say a 1k stone....dont know if the D8EE is the same

and some tape to protect the spine

The D8EE is an 8,000 grit stone.

thats definately not gonna work for productive purposes

Yeah, with a lot of patience you can hone it out on a 4k stone, but 1k or less is preferable.

You would need a DMT-E and a lot of patience or a Norton 4K and a LOT of patience to get that out. A fair amount of experience would also be needed to leave the bevel even after all the honing that it would take. I would say to pass on that one.

Originally Posted by TstebinsB

How much work would it take to clean this chip out? I only have a D8EE stone and a chromium oxide strop so far. What else would I need? Thanks.

I should add that the owner wants to trade this razor for a Norton 4000/8000 stone. He can't buy Nortons where he lives. With shipping across the pond, it'd cost about $115 USD and I don't think the razor would sell for that much.

I think I would drop down to my Norton 220 to get that chip out it looks at least a 1/16" deep. It can be done on a finer stone but it will take a long time. (days) If you decide to take it on, my advise would be circle strokes at each end of your stone and in the middle just to spread the wear around and keep track by counting them. I worked out several nicks on a old razor today and I always approach them by lets say 20 circles on each side - then 17 on each side - then 15 - 12, 9, 7, 5, 3. As states you will have to watch the bevel close and make sure one side is not wearing faster than the other. Can be tricky but doable. I would suggest finding a old POS razor you never liked to practice on before you take that beauty on.

After setting the bevel I go to the Norton 1000 then Spyderco Medium to Norton 8000 and fininsh on the Soyderco UF. Strop on chrom balsa and test shave or strop on leather then shave.

Please don't take my thoughts as expert, I am new at razor honing but I have 7 or 8 Ebay specials I have brought back to life and shave with everyday.

I really hope the kids buy me a new razor for my birthday; I just would like to shave with a new one once just to say I have! LOL

Tim

Originally Posted by whisker

I think I would drop down to my Norton 220 to get that chip out it looks at least a 1/16" deep. It can be done on a finer stone but it will take a long time. (days) If you decide to take it on, my advise would be circle strokes at each end of your stone and in the middle just to spread the wear around and keep track by counting them. I worked out several nicks on a old razor today and I always approach them by lets say 20 circles on each side - then 17 on each side - then 15 - 12, 9, 7, 5, 3. As states you will have to watch the bevel close and make sure one side is not wearing faster than the other. Can be tricky but doable. I would suggest finding a old POS razor you never liked to practice on before you take that beauty on.

After setting the bevel I go to the Norton 1000 then Spyderco Medium to Norton 8000 and fininsh on the Soyderco UF. Strop on chrom balsa and test shave or strop on leather then shave.

Please don't take my thoughts as expert, I am new at razor honing but I have 7 or 8 Ebay specials I have brought back to life and shave with everyday.

I really hope the kids buy me a new razor for my birthday; I just would like to shave with a new one once just to say I have! LOL

Tim

I was thinking I'd need some pretty aggressive grits and I gues I was right. It'd cost too much money to get all the hones I would need. I'll pass on this restoration. Thanks for the info.

Actually, the cheapest way to get out a nick that size is with some 400 or 600-grit wet-dry sandpaper. Three or four 8x3" sheets would do it. Sandpaper tends to be faster than coarse hones for this type of work.

The trouble with sandpaper is that it will probably leave a slightly rounded bevel. I usually work that out on a 1K stone, so I'm not sure how your 8K DMT would handle that. Probably not very well.

Josh

Originally Posted by TstebinsB

I was thinking I'd need some pretty aggressive grits and I gues I was right. It'd cost too much money to get all the hones I would need. I'll pass on this restoration. Thanks for the info.

Actually, keep in mind that the coarser hones are much cheaper. There is a big price difference between a norton 8K and a 220. Consider Lee Valley prices:
8K for $84
4K for $54
1K for $41
220 for $24
If you want to save money, you can get a combo 220/1K for about $35.

Other places are cheaper but Lee Valley was the first that came to mind.

Of course this is only an option if you think you will need to restore other razors. If your Filly nick is your sole project, go with Josh's sandpaper!