Thread: What are Your Shapton Questions?

1. What is the difference in the gray series and white series GlassStones from the perspective of straight razor honers?
2. What are the disadvantages of using DMT's for flattening Shapton hones?
3. Does the coarseness of the flattening stone affect the performance of Shapton hones?
4. Do the 30k hones have any real practical benifit for shavers?
5. Which Shapton products are best suited for honing razors (carbon steel versus stainless)?
6. Why don't the GlassStones come in a plastic box like the pro series?
7. Why don't they use a diamond grit instead of ceramic?

Originally Posted by matt321

1. What is the difference in the gray series and white series GlassStones from the perspective of straight razor honers?

What do you mean gray series and white series?

You're having dinner with Harrelson Stanley? Cool, he is very highly respected in the Japanese style woodworking community. He's noted for developing or at the least promoting a side to side plane iron/chisel sharpening technique for removing burrs. He even has a sharpening DVD out there for that purpose.

What do you mean lies about you???

Chris L

Originally Posted by Chrisl

What do you mean gray series and white series?

http://www.geocities.com/soatoz/tois...s/Shapton.html

Wine and dine him,,,,then ask for a special, super duper, low price for an SRP group buy......

Uhh oh.... I hope you didn't miss out on the 20% off deal over on Knifeforums.com?!?! DR sharpening was running a group buy for a few days, I managed to sneak in and grab a few hones. I could have swore I read about it here on SRP.......

Regards

Christian

Originally Posted by coachmike

Wine and dine him,,,,then ask for a special, super duper, low price for an SRP group buy......

Ask the Shapton man why the Japanese Shaopton line is different from those sold in the rest of the world. I own 2 Jhaptons for the Japanese market that I love. And I don't want to hear crap like: "Japanese steel is different" because even Japanese razor makers often use Swedish steel.

Originally Posted by Kees

Ask the Shapton man why the Japanese Shaopton line is different from those sold in the rest of the world. I own 2 Jhaptons for the Japanese market that I love. And I don't want to hear crap like: "Japanese steel is different" because even Japanese razor makers often use Swedish steel.

While we wait for our own official answer regarding the Japanese grey hones, here's some more feedback from the big meet on the weekend where Shaptons were demonstrated.

The whole Shapton kit was out for demo and it's just fantastic. The flattener was a breeze to use, the ponds make a good base, and the holders do their job well. Can I afford it? HAHAHA no way. I'll buy more glasstones for sure though.

By the way he had the new gray stone in 4k and it did seem a little different. This is the one meant for the Japanese carbon steels. I'm no expert, but I would say the overall "feel" of it is different compared to the regular glasstones. It seems to "feel" a bit more like a standard ceramic stone, but it definitely cuts like the other glasstones. I ended up accidentally sharpening an SV30 knife on it, and it was not really a good match.

This is a link to thread where the quote was taken from on knifeforums, 5th post down by Potato42.

Now I'm beginning to wonder if the grey hones might be better for carbon steel razors? Not that it matters really, I've got modern and old steel razors so I'm sure I'll be happy with the white hones.


Regards

Christian

Originally Posted by Kees

Ask the Shapton man why the Japanese Shaopton line is different from those sold in the rest of the world. I own 2 Jhaptons for the Japanese market that I love. And I don't want to hear crap like: "Japanese steel is different" because even Japanese razor makers often use Swedish steel.

Keep in mind that across several industries the Japanese have two distinct product lines. One for the domestic market and the other for the world and usually the best stuff goes to the domestic market. That's just the way they do things.

Originally Posted by Chrisl

What do you mean gray series and white series?

You're having dinner with Harrelson Stanley? Cool, he is very highly respected in the Japanese style woodworking community. He's noted for developing or at the least promoting a side to side plane iron/chisel sharpening technique for removing burrs. He even has a sharpening DVD out there for that purpose.

What do you mean lies about you???

Chris L

That's the name I was told! I couldn't remember for the life of me. Yes Harrelson Stanley. Thanks Chris!

I wonder if Mr. Stanley knows Toshio Odata, a remarkably skilled Japanese master whom I've been fortunate to know for ten years or so.

My friends have a habit of telling some pretty tall tales of my accomplishments and innovative methods. I personally have a very hard time selling myself but I am grateful to have had great discussions with guys like Frank Klaus, Ian Kirby and Toshio Odata.

the gray ones are the latest shaptons out, i dont think you can get them in the us yet