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07-19-2008, 10:55 PM #1
the problem is on the convex side the entire razor comes in contact with the hone and you have to use some pressure as you hone. So you have to actually tape the entire razor not just the spine and that really changes the angle. I tried it and quickly got tired of changing the tape every few strokes, and you have to do a lot of strokes. Also the razor surface is usually not even which creates its own problems. Then because of the asymmetric sides do you tape say one layer of tape on one side and multiple layers on the other? It almost becomes a Rube Goldberg problem.
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07-25-2008, 09:03 PM #2
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Thanked: 4Hello thebigspendur,
I honed a couple of hours on the soft arkansas hone. The convex side is even after a couple of hours. I think this is important when I have to hone or to strop in the future. The steel is very hard and the convex side completely touch the hone. So I think I must hone like a wedge razor. The other concave side should be hone like a complete hollow razor. The concave side needs only a few strokes.
Now my Kiku Hiro razor looks good an the convex side is even. So I can go on on my Blue Belgian an my Thuringian Hone.
After the Hones the japanese razor becomes a Balsawood stropping. At first with a chomoxid paste, after these the natural balsawood side.
I'm sure this razor will be very good.
with best regards, Paysbas
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07-25-2008, 11:34 PM #3
Sounds good. keep us informed how she shaves when your done.
The blue is a very slow stone you might try it with some slurry at first and then switch to plain water. It might go a little faster.No matter how many men you kill you can't kill your successor-Emperor Nero
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07-26-2008, 06:14 PM #4
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Thanked: 4About taping, I think with taping the convex side will not get even because the tape isn't hard enough to keep the pressure of honing
With best regards, Paysbas
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07-26-2008, 10:43 PM #5
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07-26-2008, 11:51 PM #6
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07-27-2008, 07:18 AM #7
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Thanked: 4Hello kevint,
I dont push so fast. But the angle it too big.
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07-27-2008, 11:53 PM #8
Its just the way it is with these razors. Probably the steel. If you tried normal edge maint. honing with just the weight of the razor you would be spending a lot of time at the hone and I'm not sure you would accomplish anything. You do need to apply pressure. Thats actually the true skill in honing Japanese razors. knowing exactly how much much pressure to exert to get the result you want for the given circumstances.
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07-27-2008, 07:41 AM #9
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07-27-2008, 07:52 PM #10
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Thanked: 4Hello Moviemaniac,
I think taping makes the angle to big, it will be very difficult to get a real sharp edge at the wedgeside of the japanese razor. In this point my razor has a full wedgeside. The advantage without taping is an even wedgeside. This will make stropping easier. When the wedgeside isn't even, it will be more difficult with stropping. With my other wedgerazors I made the experience that they are sharp a very long time when I hone and strop as I described before.
With kind regards, Paysbas