Thread: Read this if you own a SHAPTON!

How much would the cheapest usable hone cost? Say 1000 grit?

If we all chip in 5 or 10$, we buy a hone for the experiment, and if it succeeds, the 2 hones are raffled among the participants.

I have a set of Shaptons, i bet you could cut them with a stone cutting saw....

also, an idea i had but have not implemented yet to make a narrower stone is to take the Shapton diamond lapping plate and make a 45 degree flat bevel on one side of either a pro stone or glasstone, this would give a nice flat bevel but not too wide either, plus it would keep the stone mostly intact for those nicer blades that truly are flat...

a Shapton is made out of tempered glass if my information is correct, and you can NOT cut it.
Regular glass is easy to cut, but they tempered the glass for safety and strength reasons. if you cut tempered glass, it will explode into small glassfragments (hence the name safetyglass).

yikes, then Shapton would have to make them in narrower widths, somehow i can't see them doing that exclusiveley for the straight razor using community... (

More than one way to skin a cat. I have a bunch of ideas that don't necessarily involve "cutting".

I fear that all your tricks will fail...waterjetting, lasering...

Tempered glass has a tension built up inside the glass, it is very strong on the surface (you can hit it with a hammer), but when you tap with the hamer on the corner of the glass, it will shatter.

So, I'm hoping your tricks work... but for the love of god wear gloves and goggles.

I totally understand all that. But who says the ceramic needs to stay mounted on the glass? Who says that it will be glass the ceramic is remounted on? Also, tempered glass can be annealed and then cut. This is why it will be an experiment, but a measured one!

I was considering calling Howard to see if he could get me a Shapton Pro and cut it to 1" for me. As apparently the pros are getting discontinued, and the glass stones can't be cut, I'd have to get a pro stone soon in order to have any chance of owning a narrow shapton.
I also don't hold out much hope of this project bearing fruit, as apparently once the outer layer of tempered glass is penetrated, the glass will shatter. That said, I would be willing to donate $10 to buy a suitable hone to experiment on, as you seem to have plenty of ideas. I just gave up when I heard it couldn't be done!
I REALLY hope this works.

Connor

Maybe cutting with a laser? Can you score tempered glass and snap it?

It would be nice to have narrow shapton ceramic stones. It's a bummer that I feel I can't use them for screwed up blades that need a narrow hone. Just last night I started honing a new TI Super Gnome that surprise, needed a narrow hone (2nd Super Gnome that won't respond to a wide hone). I set a passable bevel on the 1&2k Shaptons and went for the edge of a Tam and very narrow Coticule with hundreds of passes on each. The edge is still not where I want it.

So.....narrow Shaptons? I'd like them. Even if only for coarse grits to finish on narrow natural stones.

Here's an alternate idea for you, Alex:

The 1K is about $43 + shipping. If you spring for the cost and your idea works and....you think you'd be fine with offering to sell ripped Shaptons, I think it would work in your favor. I could see myself buying a ripped 1K Shapton for let's say $40 shipped and I bet some others would as well.

Chris L