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02-25-2009, 09:54 AM #1
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Thanked: 77I don't know about you guys but I have to clean (or turn it around depending on the stroke I'm using) about every 10 or 15 laps. The black stays on the stone and very little gets suspended in the water. It's almost like dragging a graphite rod across the stone. If not the first stroke you start seeing it in the first few. By 10 or so laps you can feel it. I use just a very light pressure biased towards the edge. Run it under the tap and most of it comes off with a couple of light swipes of my fingers and the rest with a few light scrubs with a scotchbright pad.
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02-25-2009, 12:57 PM #2
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Thanked: 4942I have used the glass 16K on over a thousand razors and most times over a dozen at a sitting. I rarely use more than 10 strokes and only clean or lap the stone when I'm done so it's ready for the next time.
It has been a very consistent stone and I also go to either the diamond spray on felt or cromium oxide before the leather.
Lynn
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02-25-2009, 01:06 PM #3
I dont have a 16 or 30k. It seems rather odd to find that edge harsh or raggedy... I would think perhaps microchips or wire edge.
Have you looked? everytime I feel like the edge is harsh, there is something besides a smooth even looking edge.
Just asking
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02-25-2009, 01:14 PM #4
Yes Kevin I have. I think I have sensitive skin. I can't shave more then two passes without irritation no matter what I use (DE or straight) and with a DE the first shave was usually a bit harsh feeling (with a Feather). I always use magnification 30X before during and after honing. I don't leave chips if they are there to start with and rarely cause them with my honing. Thanks for asking though.
Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
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02-25-2009, 11:06 PM #5
I love my Shapton stones, and going all the way up to the 16k
leaves me with an edge that I can either take straight to the
linen, or to any of my natural finishers for a different feeling
finish.
- Scott
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02-26-2009, 01:47 AM #6
I don't think my skin is sensitive too much. I am unclear on what it means really, and often seems to be different interprertaions of :harsh I have been meaning to get a loupe. I guess I worry that if it isnt B and L or something, it wouldn't satisfy. With my radio shack microscope, some of what you see, you don't know what it is. lighting , light reflecting, so i try to correlate what i see with what i feel.
I don't have 30x so I don't know if anything is lost or gained in the view. I can get a smooth feeling shave with 8k and leather; or a miserable prickly one- especially with no strop at all.
I can't get a clean shave, i think because it takes too much pressure = too much skin movement. It isnt harsh it's just too dull.
what you describe sounds, could be symptomatic of a wire edge. It would be interesting to know if 4 strokes might make the difference to smooth shaving....
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02-26-2009, 02:11 AM #7
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Thanked: 16Makes me glad I went with the glass over the pro series. I don't have much to compare to but I've been loving it.
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02-26-2009, 02:12 AM #8
What I describe in terms of irritation beyond two passes occurs whether I shave with a DE with a Gillette Swede, Feather, Derby, IP, Merkur, Wilkinson..... straights honed by me, Lynn, The Topher, Tim Zowada, Mastro Livi, Joe Chandler. I don't see a wire edge with the 30x and I think it just may be my skin.
Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
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02-26-2009, 03:05 AM #9