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Thread: Hones gone crazy
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07-14-2009, 11:13 PM #1
Hones gone crazy
All this talk lately about people experimenting with all kinds of stuff to hone their razors.
When I did that shaving brainbuster about the 3 pigs there was the one who picked up a rock in his yard and used it to hone and I thought I was kidding but there was a post from a guy at B&B who did exactly that.
Has everyone gone crazy?
You know I have a fair sized chunk of Beryl which is perfectly shaped to use as a hone. Its around 7.5- 8 on the mohs scale, its what emerald is (Beryllium aluminum silicate). I think I'm going to lap that puppy and try it out. I guess I've gone crazy too.No matter how many men you kill you can't kill your successor-Emperor Nero
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07-14-2009, 11:20 PM #2
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07-14-2009, 11:29 PM #3
Hey, there's nothing wrong with crazy! I think we're a little crazy sometimes.
So about that chunk of Beryl....it would be interesting to see how it turns out. Oh, and pictures are always welcome by me!
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07-14-2009, 11:30 PM #4
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Thanked: 132Stones and hones...it truely is a beautiful thing. Definately be cool to see that stone and hear how it works for ya.
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07-15-2009, 01:29 AM #5
I've BEEN crazy
and we talked about it
remember that piece of sodalite and quartz I was trying to hone one a couple years ago????
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07-15-2009, 01:53 AM #6
I don't believe you, you should post pics...
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07-15-2009, 10:06 PM #7
Here are my thoughts. Hones HAVE to be sedimentary. Its not the hardness of the particle, its teh size of the particle. Coticule is basically slate, with garnet particles. DMT's for instance aren't using a solid diamond (not only because its very expensive) they are using diamonds of different sizes. So If your solid beryl is going to be any good as a hone, you better find a way to texture the surface to your purposes. The only way I can see a metamorphic or igneous rock being used well as a hone is if you lapped it all the way up to like, 6k or 8k so its as smooth as glass, then used it as a final polisher. But good luck. If you lap it on a DMT XX, it'll be a very rough hone. On a DMT C, a smoother one. etc. The other thing I'd like to say is that if you lap it to say, 400 grit, doesn't mean it will be a 400 grit hone. Anyway, I'm interested to see the outcome!
EDIT: Now that I think about it, even man made hones are sedimentary in a way, Silicon carbide or alumina or some other grit substance BOUND BY polymers, clay, etc.
EDIT AGAIN: Also now that I think about it this is probably why barbers hones have mixed results and have no definite grit because they are far more solid, and why things like J-nats get smoother over time- because you are not releasing new cutting particles because the stone is too hard, the ones that are there smooth out.Last edited by khaos; 07-15-2009 at 10:08 PM.
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07-15-2009, 11:09 PM #8
Only problem is slate is not sedimentary its metamorphic. It starts as shale which is sedimentary and once its metamorphosed all those particales are further packed down and reduced to form the slate. Slate is very heavy dense stuff. If there were garnet xtls in the slate I would think they would be very deformed or made different by the heat and pressure. Usually when garnet is metamorphosed it becomes a different mineral the name escapes me, maybe garnierite but its usually massive stuff no xtls.
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07-16-2009, 01:08 AM #9
Sorry I meant shale. I keep mixing those up.
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07-16-2009, 03:56 PM #10
There is a Beryl Hone on ebay right now, the seller is claiming it to be equivalent to 8k Natural Beryl Polishing Stone Graver Sharpening Tool - eBay (item 120446717540 end time Aug-09-09 20:41:49 PDT) Was thinking of ordering one for myself, but I think it may be a bit narrow for my personal taste.
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