I cannot place every name on the short list of bezel shiners. But I bet I'm on it.

JimmyH Every time I read that anecdote it gives me a chuckle. No; Because it can be very true.

Mine is a logical argument. I don't think you can kick against it. You cannot follow it though if you are always going between grits.

The answer though is not to eliminate them firstly. We cannot do that. There is too much learning and shaving that needs done before it can be managed.

The argument is logical the ifs are: if your hones are flat and stroke consistent and even- the scratches will disappear and quick *with resin ceramic whetstones (*it depends control

JimR expressed it well. Residuals are a tool and a control.

I see no use in honing and honing until every residual scratch is gone; because you would miss the qualitative measure of that edge with the true test. I've only been honing / using razors for a wee spell. All in all I expect a multi-year endeavor.

It's always a confusion if one guy is thinking of his style razor and I'm thinking of mine. I have only enough razors to get a general idea of typology. I don't fool with rusty ones or warped ones. I need my toolmakers in the game. I cannot see how I will get better at honing by getting with scores of razors. Just to see if I can make them shave? As a self teacher I have a poor master, he constantly sends me down rabbit holes. Using the same razors over and over is the only way to moniter Me. The only one i really care how well he does at it.

All I want is a simple, effective system that allows me to shave with the effortless promised by the next new thing. Scratch free happens passively on the road to mastery. The business of razor honing is entirely different. It must be about pleasing the most people with as little work as needed.