Thread: Edge Coating, Lucas Gun Oil

Originally Posted by Kingfish

I think either way RIG of Gun oil is way above and beyond. Jimmy, think about how protective gun oil is for CW users and the harsh environments like sweat and high humidity. Any razor would cringe. Down here in Humid South Florida most serious people use Break Free gun oil but I would bet any one would be more than up to task.
Mike

Mike, for years my routine with minty Case Tested XX and XX knives has been to wipe them down with Semichrome and follow with RIG on the Outers Gun Cloth. I also use it on firearms (not the Semichrome) and RiG has never failed me. I don't leave a lot on. Wipe on and wipe off.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Mike, for years my routine with minty Case Tested XX and XX knives has been to wipe them down with Semichrome and follow with RIG on the Outers Gun Cloth. I also use it on firearms (not the Semichrome) and RiG has never failed me. I don't leave a lot on. Wipe on and wipe off.

I did not realize you wipe it off. I wonder if it is a paraffin base plus whatever inhibitors or just grease with inhibitors. Does it smell waxy?
Mike

Originally Posted by Kingfish

I did not realize you wipe it off. I wonder if it is a paraffin base plus whatever inhibitors or just grease with inhibitors. Does it smell waxy?
Mike

Oh it is definitely grease and petroleum based. Not waxy at all. I still can't believe they went out of biz.

I haven't tried the Lucas product yet, but have used Hoppe's #9 and Breakfree CLP for guns, etc... since pre-1970. After seeing Ballistol remove crud that the former 2 didn't, I started using it for most purposes. The price is nice too, at about $10 for 16 ounces.

I tested Camellia, Mineral, and Ballistol oils against each other this summer and the Ballistol worked much better. The test conditions were far harsher than a razor will likely see. Under normal conditions, any of those 3 work fine for my razors.

Here's a test that was done a while back; too bad they didn't use WD-40...

I use TuffGlide for short term storage of razors I use regularly. It was developed by and / or for the Navy Seals for their knives, guns and other equipment. I haven't had any staining or rust whatsoever using this stuff.

Jerry
~~~

Originally Posted by Sticky

I haven't tried the Lucas product yet, but have used Hoppe's #9 and Breakfree CLP for guns, etc... since pre-1970. After seeing Ballistol remove crud that the former 2 didn't, I started using it for most purposes. The price is nice too, at about $10 for 16 ounces.

I tested Camellia, Mineral, and Ballistol oils against each other this summer and the Ballistol worked much better. The test conditions were far harsher than a razor will likely see. Under normal conditions, any of those 3 work fine for my razors.

Here's a test that was done a while back; too bad they didn't use WD-40...

I can tell you that WD40 offers little protection on tools in my garage. I use to spray down drill press, band saw etc. regularly but it offers little if any protection in high humidity. I think 90% of it is gone within a day or two. I have not tried ballistol but have Shooters Choice, and it is good for long term storage. I think you are correct in that producthat any of the former products would be fine for razor storage.
Having said that I will continue my camilia oil routine on my rotational shavers and think about using a more stable product for razors that are just being stored.
Mike

Cool! Where do you get it from? I'm always looking for better products to protect metal. I've a whole shelf of them and the finer gun products really do protect metal better. I buy WD40 by the gallon but don't use it for fine metal products as it has water in it (they use it in bluing operations for that reason, I'm told). I really like the RIG products too and it's used by benchresters who spare no expense for anything involved with their sport. I use Camellia Oil when I ship razors to people as I know it will only be on temporarily. I have a few bottles and tubes of Break Free but find that it separates after setting awhile. If you can point me to some Lucas, I'd appreciate it. Do you wipe it off before shaving? I don't think I'd like it in a cut.

I use Ballistol for years on my razors and non of them got any rust even where I live the climate is quite humid. Once treated the blade is protected for months. It dissolves very easily the shave soap on the blade and protects even there where there's still water left (around the pin...)
It emulsifies with water and works against rust by neutralising the oxigen in the water rather then forming a film protectionagainst it!
Ballistol is a gun oil, develloped around 1901 on special order of the German Army with multiple tasks to fulfil: first a gun oil and a dissolver of gunpowder, then as a protectant of wood and leather and finally as an desinfectant for minor wounds because it is totally non-poisonous. A medicinal version is sold for some 70 years in German pharmacies under the label "Neo-Ballistol", which is in fact the same gun oil with another odour more suitable for internal intake. It is used for all kind of illnesses( upset stomach, cold, sun burns, insect bite...)
That's why I'm using Ballistol: it is totally non-poisonous.
All other gun oils mentioned in this thread are poisonous. I know them all, they are excellent gun oils but non of them are safe. How can someone use poisonous stuff on razor blades?
Ballistol dissolves shave soap, dessinfects the blades en keeps them rust free for months. What else do you want? This is a proven household product in the german speeking countries (Germany, Austria, Switserland and also in the Netherlands and Belgium. It is also used in hospitals because it is non toxic.
See this link on youtube:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvCd5Sf5AJk