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    What do you think. Nothing matches no label on the hone. eBay item number:121929989588.
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    Looks genuine to me. There is some space for a rubbing stone. Ask seller whether it is still available
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    It is a re-boxed stone, if that is the stone that belongs with that label… you will never know. And really you could never sell it as an Escher, ethically. But with any stone you never, “really” know if it is original to the label…

    That stone has seen some rough care and use, looks like a Thüringen so it may perform. A label is never a guarantee of performance.

    It is a total roll of the dice, it is over a hundred dollars and will go higher, and personally I would pass. It’s up to you, if you want to take a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kees View Post
    Looks genuine to me. There is some space for a rubbing stone. Ask seller whether it is still available
    Its up for auction until Saturday 3/26. No label so I will pass. Thanks.

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    This is a seller with over 2700 sales and 100% positive reviews so I don't really think he's gonna cheat you. An Escher label on the hone would have been nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kees View Post
    This is a seller with over 2700 sales and 100% positive reviews so I don't really think he's gonna cheat you. An Escher label on the hone would have been nice.
    Looking at this again do you think the label came off the hone and someone attached it to the wooden box? Not saying the vendor did this. Might have been done some time ago. The wood box is not original so perhaps the original owner did it. I think its good but not willing to pay a labeled Escher price for it. I will put it on the watch list. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hacker7 View Post
    Looking at this again do you think the label came off the hone and someone attached it to the wooden box? Not saying the vendor did this. Might have been done some time ago. The wood box is not original so perhaps the original owner did it. I think its good but not willing to pay a labeled Escher price for it. I will put it on the watch list. Thanks.
    IME the label of that period is easily removed from the stone. Just from ordinary honing the water will soak the label and loosen it to the point where it practically falls off. So it is not hard to imagine someone removing the label and putting it aside for safe keeping. The older labels were very difficult, if not impossible to remove without destroying them.

    The blau-grun (blue green) in the box below has one of the old labels. You can see how it is worn. Guy I got it from put some sort of lacquer on it. I'd have used something a it less noticable, but it protects the label from moisture, and doesn't bother the honing surface.

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    Notice the box. It is typical of boxes that Escher made for the 10" hones with the large slurry stones along side. This was the first example I'd seen with a standard 7.5" hone, and I was unsure if it was the real McCoy.

    I spoke with a friend in Germany who is an expert on Eschers and he said it was the same wood that Escher used, and was probably something they did at one time or another. They were in business a long time. The underside of the ebay stone being 'rough hewn' is also typical of some Eschers I've had come and go. They were finished on the honing surface but not as particular as to the underside. I think that set you're looking at is probably the real deal, but I could be wrong, I was wrong once before.
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    Very similar to Escher.

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    Its a thuringian Stone with an Escher lablel, so if i could ever come over one of those for a good price i would buy it....

    I dont agree on the discussion not to buy it, it looks good, vintage it seems to be an original label with a real thuringian stone. So the only question here is "whats that worth for you"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by doorsch View Post
    Its a thuringian Stone with an Escher lablel, so if i could ever come over one of those for a good price i would buy it....

    I dont agree on the discussion not to buy it, it looks good, vintage it seems to be an original label with a real thuringian stone. So the only question here is "whats that worth for you"?
    No doubt the label is Escher it just not on the rock. The rock seems legit. For a good price i'm sure its worth it. It will probably go for $350. or so. The seller states it comes with the slurry stone but there are no pic's of it. I don't think it should command real labeled prices without the label on the rock. But it will.
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