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    So how do we value razors anyway. No name razors? I don't think I ever saw a razor with "no name" on it. maybe its not a henckels or a Puma or a DD but that doesn't mean its not of equal quality to one of those. Like others have said if you think a razor is being sold at a rip off price don't buy it and if everyone does that eventually the price will go down but i would guess that will never happen. personally i think razors are valued much less than other knife related items and the word is catching on. That no name special for $30 you might be lucky to get for $130 in a few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigspendur View Post
    No name razors? I don't think I ever saw a razor with "no name" on it.
    My "no name" I purchased from JoshEarl is one of my 2 best shavers. I bought it for virtually nothing if you count the shave readiness and shipping. Had I paid twice that I would still be happy. Value is based on what the market will bear. Right now the market is favorable. I don't blame folks for charging prices that the market will support.

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    sorry but I respectfully disagree,

    I think that honing is not something that should cost 15-20 dollars per razor, in some exceptional cases it should cost this. From what I've seen it takes about 15 minutes for an experienced honer to set a bevel and bring up an average Ebay razor to shaving sharp, and I doubt the average SRP member is making $80.00 per hour. Reference http://video.google.nl/videoplay?doc...94301842672864
    . I have paid for honing and have recived prices much lower then that for honing razors (7 euro in fact)

    As far as me getting an exceptional deal and costs of "restoring" a razor, I just don't feel that in general it takes that much time to get a razor cleaned up unless it is a rust bucket. Get a no name dremel some sandpaper and a little polish and your pretty much set unless there is major pitting.

    But perhaps it is just that I am cheap. Or maybe the fact that I enjoy scrubbing off a bit of gunk off my razors to find the treasure beneath.

    How much do you think these Ducks will go for on SRP once the new owner has cleaned them up and sharpened them?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/FOUR-VINTAGE-DOU...ayphotohosting
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    Quote Originally Posted by stupidyank View Post
    sorry but I respectfully disagree,

    I think that honing is not something that should cost 15-20 dollars per razor, in some exceptional cases it should cost this. From what I've seen it takes about 15 minutes for an experienced honer to set a bevel and bring up an average Ebay razor to shaving sharp, and I doubt the average SRP member is making $80.00 per hour. Reference http://video.google.nl/videoplay?doc...94301842672864
    . I have paid for honing and have recived prices much lower then that for honing razors (7 euro in fact)

    As far as me getting an exceptional deal and costs of "restoring" a razor, I just don't feel that in general it takes that much time to get a razor cleaned up unless it is a rust bucket. Get a no name dremel some sandpaper and a little polish and your pretty much set unless there is major pitting.

    But perhaps it is just that I am cheap. Or maybe the fact that I enjoy scrubbing off a bit of gunk off my razors to find the treasure beneath.

    How much do you think these Ducks will go for on SRP once the new owner has cleaned them up and sharpened them?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/FOUR-VINTAGE-DOU...ayphotohosting

    Those won't be for sale on SRP I won that auction today, figure I paid about $26 per razor which I didn't think was too bad. I'm not counting the one that looks like a toothpick that one is already sorted as just junk. I plan on cleaning them up and using them to practice honing and adding them to my rotation.

    Edit: I do pretty much agree on the prices, though, seems razor prices are a bit ridiculous lately ... personally I'm just not going to spend money on razors I think are overpriced, if more would do that and not pay ridiculous amounts for razors prices would be forced down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stupidyank View Post
    I doubt the average SRP member is making $80.00 per hour.
    I doubt that as well. The 6 hours of sanding is what caught my eye. Isn't that worth something? Especially when it's a service - you must be more careful when you are spending several manual hours on someone else's thin piece of metal lest ye break it and have to replace it.
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    In real estate, there is a distinction among cost, price, and value. Cost is the amount you paid for the property. Price is the amount you want for the property. Value is the highest amount someone is willing to pay you for the property.

    To me, the cost of a razor is irrelevant if the price is consistent with current market trends. I shouldn't have to sell my item for a cheap price just because I bought it for a cheap price. If I locate a mint, vintage TI at an antique shop for $20, I shouldn't have to sell it for $20 even though it's worth $150. If someone prices a razor too high, then the value will dictate that. Obviously, enough people have been buying razors at these higher prices to justify their continued existance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stupidyank View Post
    sorry but I respectfully disagree,

    I think that honing is not something that should cost 15-20 dollars per razor, in some exceptional cases it should cost this. From what I've seen it takes about 15 minutes for an experienced honer to set a bevel and bring up an average Ebay razor to shaving sharp, and I doubt the average SRP member is making $80.00 per hour. Reference http://video.google.nl/videoplay?doc...94301842672864
    . I have paid for honing and have recived prices much lower then that for honing razors (7 euro in fact)

    As far as me getting an exceptional deal and costs of "restoring" a razor, I just don't feel that in general it takes that much time to get a razor cleaned up unless it is a rust bucket. Get a no name dremel some sandpaper and a little polish and your pretty much set unless there is major pitting.

    But perhaps it is just that I am cheap. Or maybe the fact that I enjoy scrubbing off a bit of gunk off my razors to find the treasure beneath.

    How much do you think these Ducks will go for on SRP once the new owner has cleaned them up and sharpened them?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/FOUR-VINTAGE-DOUBLE-DUCK-STRAIGHT-RAZORS-3-DWARFS_W0QQitemZ310050029508QQihZ021QQcategoryZ475 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohos ting

    I would argue that at $15-$20 for honing from an experienced person, you're paying for their experience. I'm sorry, but someone who may have years of honing experience and as a result can hone a razor much faster that most others should charge less than others? Does that mean someone who takes 2 hours to hone a razor should charge $120?

    I believe that if you personally started honing razors for others for a fee and started restoring and selling razors to other members on SRP over an extended period of time, you would quickly see that charging nothing or almost nothing for your time would get old very quickly.

    I would also argue that most members that hone or restore as a hobby take any "profit" from their sales or services and put them back directly into their hobby. A self funded hobby. What could be better?

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    I think the numbers of people sending razors to Lynn, etc....for honing easily shows that most think $15-25 to be a very fair price.
    Not ever razor is honed in 15 minutes, some can take twice that, some require a few sessions.

    So what is your time worth that would make you sit all evening honing razors for other vs. spending time with your family or maybe doing another activity with billable time?

    There are plenty of services out there I would not spend a nickle on but that does not mean they are charging too much.

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    I'm afraid I have to agree with the others, razors in the BST here tend to go for a little too much money for my blood... But I don't consider them overpriced. I buy vintage razors at flea markets and antique stores and fix them up myself for use. I know I'm going to get burned for the price of a razor eventually... plus everyone of my razors has a good amount of blood, sweat and tears equity. I would not sell them for even double what I paid for them.

    Also, I agree they are a finite resource. I'm lucky enough to live in an area with three towns within a twenty minute drive that were all big going concerns already in 1850 or earlier. Also, it appears some local buisiness or salesman once dealt exclusively in H. Boker razors, I've seen twenty or more for sale and every razor box I have ever gotten has always been a Boker box. Even so, however, between me and one other fellow I've never met (I have about five antique shops/flea markets I hit, I sometimes hear about his purchases) have managed to fairly pick clean the razors that don't need new scales.

    So, would I sell a razor I bought for 15 dollars? No, because I may not be able to find another to replace it that doesn't require a larger investment of money to put in to my rotation. It's like commodity pricing, like gas, it's not only what you paid to get the commodity but the cost of replacing it as well. That's why the same gas that was in the stations tank yesterday at 1.10 a liter may cost 1.15 today, they need to adjust the price to ensure they can buy the gas back without losing their profits (which, by the way, for the gas station it's self is pretty meager, here it's around two cents a liter pumped).

    So, long story short... You're paying not just for the fact that the person selling took a risk, or for their efforts but also for the increasing rarity and increasing price of razors themselves.

    And this is from someone with a bad case of RAD. :P

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    [quote=stupidyank;212669]sorry but I respectfully disagree,

    I think that honing is not something that should cost 15-20 dollars per razor, in some exceptional cases it should cost this. From what I've seen it takes about 15 minutes for an experienced honer to set a bevel and bring up an average Ebay razor to shaving sharp, and I doubt the average SRP member is making $80.00 per hour.


    I'm sorry but that is just wrong, 15 minutes ????? you shave with it, not I, nor any razor I would put my reputation behind... I just honed up a C-MON this morning, which I considered a fairly straight forward honing, and that took just over 1 1/2 hours from start to finish... If you add a warp of any little bit, that can double the time... Just to qualify "Shave Ready" I mean honed, polished and stropped, to a point that I would put that blade on my face and shave.... JMHO of course and quite a few satisfied faces including my own..... then again perhaps, I am the one who is wrong, and I take way to much time to make sure that the edge is as perfect as I can make it... But when somebody pays me to hone a razor for them, I am going to do the best job that I can possibly accomplish, and I am not going to be watching the clock.....
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