Thread: mags_44820 is a pain!!!

okay, so i bid and bought a W&B from mags_44820, with the description being that THE BLADE IS MASSIVE OVER AN INCH WIDE AND 1/4 INCH THICK, AND HAS SOME CORROSION, BUT IS VERY SHARP.

it is thick, and has some corrosion, and it is sharp(aren't they all), but it was barely 7/8 inch wide. part of the reason i bought it was that is was 'OVER' and inch wide. i never leave negative feedback, but i had to at least comment to him personally. so i sent this note.

Afternoon. i received in the mail today item number: 280237972581. it was very well packaged and arrived safe and sound. i went back to your description before leaving feedback and looked at the fact you claimed this razor to be 'over' an inch wide, when in fact it is only 7/8 inches. i like the razor, however part of the reason that i bought it was for the size. i feel that this was misrepresented, however like anything, i took a chance. i will not be returning this as i do like it, just not quite what i thought i was buying.

feedback- i have never left negative feedback, and do not intend to at this point. i think i have my reason, however there will be no benefit to either of us. i would appreciate feedback since i did what was asked of me timely and in the manner required.
thank you again for the sale. i do like the razor, just wish it was a little bigger.

so then i receive the following today.

One of the pictures in ad shows the blade of ths razor on a tape measure, I did not measure it with a set of calipers I guess I will have to start. Regards to feedback I do not leave feedback until it is left for me. Remember when 2 differnt people look at an item each sees it differntly and due to ebays new feedback policy buyers, mainly ones with feedback under 100 think its ok to complain and mention leaving bad feedback or threaten to, in order to get extort sellers. I am honest and try to describe each item as I see it, but another may see it differnt and thats a chance I take. You see I lost 10 bucks on the razor you bought, and I had to buy the packing supplies and the paper and ink in label figure I am out another buck. So do what you think you have too do I wont leave feedback for anyone who leaves me negative and I will turn in the original message to ebay as a feedback policy violation.

are you kidding me? you lost money, and i violated feedback policy? i think you have to either leave feedback or threaten negative feedback to violate anything. my response.

sorry that you did not measure it with calipers, and yes it was on a tape measure, but your specific wording is 'THE BLADE IS MASSIVE OVER AN INCH WIDE'. go back to your listing and see it. i agree that how i see the photo vs someone else may be different, but your english is pretty clear.

if you lost $10 on the shipping, you should have charged more for the S&H, or put a reserve on it.

exactly how did i violate feedback policy with you? i did not threaten to leave you negative feedback. in fact, i said i would not leave you negative feedback. so how did i violate anything? i did not ask for anything other than feedback from you. you don't want to leave it, that's fine. don't do it. the only negative COMMENT i said was that i felt the razor size was misrepresented. so i would like to know what i violated.

this razor will be shave ready by the weekend and as i stated, i like it. i just wish it was bigger, as YOU stated. 'THE BLADE IS MASSIVE OVER AN INCH WIDE '

what an pain. luckily he cannot leave me neg feedback. he packaged well and shipped fast, but that is not worth the misrepresentation in his description.

vgod

Sounds like the seller protested a bit too loudly, I think they knew exactly what they were doing listing it like that. What a jerk, screw him/her.

I have had a few buys that "stretched the truth" a little too, but not that much. Usually it's about the sharpness or amount of rust/pitting, and I chalk part of that up to willful ignorance.

He has 2 more razors listed now.

My naughty side says that a bunch of us should ask him questions including asking him to measure the width using a calipers. Of course, then not bidding.

I, of course, am not recommending this course of action, but couldn't stop anyone either.

I do notice that his pics are inadequate it seems reasonable to ask for more views before buying.

If the razor in question is the one I'm thinking of, wasn't there a picture of the blade laying diagonally across a ruler? If so, I took the pic into photoshop to rotate it, then decided not to bid.

I had nearly the same experience with a different seller. The description said 7/8" width, but when I received it it was clearly 6/8. When I asked the seller about it, he replied" we must be measuring differently". WTF?

vgod you can file a paypal dispute, send the razor back, and get your refund. if you're unhappy with the razor for that price, you should probably go that route. if you're happy with the razor for that price, you can simply file an ebay dispute to have ebay look into the seller's selling practices

The bottom line is: you indicate you want to keep the razor although you are unhappy with it. That way you send a mixed message. On the one hand you complain, on the other hand you seem happy with what you got. In the last line you even thank him for the sale! That way you did elicit to some extent a funny reply.

I think the seller was worried you wanted to get part of your money back, at least that explains his funny statements about the shipping costs.

Just my devil's advocate's $ 0.02.

The whole thing of measuring in different ways reminds me of the tape measures game keepers used in India when they went hunting tigers. One inch on the tape measure in reality was only 7/8". That gave the hunter a larger than life trophy to brag about.

BTW I am not implying you were wrong to complain!

hogaloo, i don't think that i will file a dispute, i just wish that the listing was right. i am not unhappy with the razor. it is still a big hefty blade. but imagine if you ordered a red covette as advertised and it came in and it was hot pink. perception vs. lies. it is still a corvette, just not the one advertised.

bigbubba, yes, it was lying on a ruler, but the centimeters were showing, not the inches. i use a 15 inch ruler at work, and so 27 centimeters is a different measurement than on a 12 inch ruler.

kees, i am not unhappy with the razor, just the representation. he shipped fast, packaged well. i don't want to just complain that he sucked, just that he could have been more accurate. had i not wanted the razor, i would have asked for a refund, and still not left negative feedback. and i think he may have been expecting me to say i want this or that, but i didn't and i don't.

i think it is just crap that he threatens me with feedback violation when i did not even leave him feedback or threaten to leave negative feedback. thanks for the thoughts gentlemen.

vgod

Originally Posted by vgod

hogaloo, i don't think that i will file a dispute, i just wish that the listing was right. i am not unhappy with the razor. it is still a big hefty blade. but imagine if you ordered a red covette as advertised and it came in and it was hot pink. perception vs. lies. it is still a corvette, just not the one advertised.

vgod, something similar happened to me. I'm unhappy with my razor though - and yes I understand its disappointing and a hassle when you get something you didn't bid on. I've only had to file a dispute and a claim once before, and it's a pain. and the feedback threat has been against ebay policy for as long as i can recall

Originally Posted by vgod

i think it is just crap that he threatens me with feedback violation when i did not even leave him feedback or threaten to leave negative feedback. thanks for the thoughts gentlemen.
vgod

That's an empty threat IMHO.In the past the seller would leave a negative feedback as well, since ebay changed the feedback system a seller can no longer do that. The only other instrument they have is feedback violation. If you buy sth and can prove it is different from its description you are entitled to leave negative feedback. You might wanna leave neutral feedback as well, this will also de deducted when positive feedback percentage is calculated by ebay IIRC.

Bottom line is that the negative feedback option is there for a reason. Whether or not this situation calls for using it is up to you and only you. If I have a transaction and feel that it was a negative experience for a legit reason (or more) I will leave negative feedback. I've only actually done it once when I bought a book BIN and never received it after months and numerous emails with the seller. eBay eventually returned my money, shipping and all. If I recall correctly, the seller went "out of business" soon after.