Thread: A Double Cuckoo? No, I don't mean a dubl duck...

Originally Posted by nun2sharp

The only thing you can do is place the maximum bid you are willing to pay, and then let the game begin. It really doesnt matter who snipes, if their bid is larger, they win, if your bid is larger you win. Everybody bidding in the last 5 seconds isnt going to change a thing.

Sniping can and does help you win the auction for a lower amount in case the auction is not won by an automatic bid. But the highest bidder still wins, obviously.

Originally Posted by Cornelius

That's incorrect. The highest bidder wins. It doesnt matter when the bid was placed as long as it was placed before the auction end time.

That is technically correct. HOWEVER, NO ONE HAS A CHANCE TO COUNTER THAT BID. And that's my biggest complaint. In a REAL AUCTION, the participants *always* have a chance to see, hear, *and counter* a bid.

The way it is now, ebay is more of a silent auction (where everyone places secret bids via sniping programs) and after the time expiration, the envelopes are opened, and the highest bid wins without anyone being able to counter.

Sorry, I'll stop this nonsense now... I took this thread waaay off topic.

A Double Cuckoo? No, I don't mean a dubl duck...
Never heard of this brand.

I'll try to put it back on. I've seen this razor before,but the seller didn't know it's name either.He/she called it "two birds pulling a razor".Now we know.

Originally Posted by FloorPizza

That is technically correct. HOWEVER, NO ONE HAS A CHANCE TO COUNTER THAT BID. And that's my biggest complaint. In a REAL AUCTION, the participants *always* have a chance to see, hear, *and counter* a bid.

That's right, after the auction end time, no more bids are accepted. In real life auctions, this is very different indeed.

The way I see it (ebay) is this: with the automatic bid, you got shill bidders that'd get your bid right up to the max asap. So we learned to not really enter the real absolute max we were ready to bid so that we could stay below it when the shillers came and bid manually in the last seconds. If ebay had acted against multiple accounts from the same IP address or other known shill bidders, it would not have come to the way it is now that you so perfectly describe here

Originally Posted by FloorPizza

The way it is now, ebay is more of a silent auction (where everyone places secret bids via sniping programs) and after the time expiration, the envelopes are opened, and the highest bid wins without anyone being able to counter.

These days, the only reasonable option on ebay is to enter your absolute maximum amount into your sniper and hope for the best. It's not as comfortable to follow as it used to be, but if you really enter the absolute max you're willing to pay, being outbid should not bother you.

Originally Posted by Cornelius

but if you really enter the absolute max you're willing to pay, being outbid should not bother you.

[Yes, I feel badly about continuing the thread hijack... but not enough to overcome my obsessive compulsive post response disorder]

DING! this is the crux of the matter. FloorPizza, think about this. You go to a flea market, see something and think "I'm willing to pay a maximum of X for that". Then you see someone getting ready to buy it for X+. Then you reconsider and think "Wait! I'm now willing to pay X++". Why? how did someone else's valuation of the item change yours? How did the value of the item itself change?

Originally Posted by FloorPizza

Sorry, I'll stop this nonsense now... I took this thread waaay off topic.

I could continue this debate for pages, but I'll stick to my above statement.

As it was pointed out the only way to win an item on ebay is to place the highest bid before the deadline. As to various strategies of how to make this happen they should probably discussed in a separate thread. Seems to me in this case the problem is the price, not the timing.

I think it's an interesting razor, mostly because it's likely an attempt to capitalize on the more famous brand. I am not bidding on it as I'm not interested in owning it. If anybody here wins it I'd be curious to read their impression with it.

The razor looks really nice... but it might not be what it looks like... The "finest silver double fully razor" sure does sound like "engrish" to me. I might be wrong, though... this could be the find of the century! A rare razor? Or a fine piece of junk with gold leaf on it?... Anyone willing to drop 26 USD to find out? In the name of cience, maybe?...

Hell, I would spend the cash on it, but I can't read french.

Originally Posted by joke1176

Hell, I would spend the cash on it, but I can't read french.

If it can be of any help, I'd be happy to translate ir for you. I'm not an expert, but french is a language I can, more or less, "make do" with...

EDIT: Now I feel stupid... I went back to see the razor and realized the description is written in english. No wonder I could read it so well, I thought... my french must be in a might fine shape! Turns out I didn't even realize it was NOT in french! Damn you, Joe, for making me feel silly!... On the other hand... it's nice to know that my language skills are Okay!