Was this a good deal?

**pjrage** · 03-30-2009, 05:16 PM

So I didn't even know I had HAD. I also didn't know I wanted to spend a little over $100 on shaving gear last night. But I saw this baby ending soon and something came over me and I felt compelled to grab it at the last second. I think it was a good deal. I'm just hoping the BBW side is in fact BBW and not slate? The seller does state it is BBW, though.

Belgian Coticule Blue Yellow Combination Razor Hone - eBay (item 140309559152 end time Mar-29-09 17:27:23 PDT)

Hope that link works, otherwise, it's item #140309559152.

**holli4pirating** · 03-30-2009, 06:00 PM

I usually compare prices to what Howard at The Perfect Edge has (</TITLE><html> <head> <title>The Perfect Edge), but cross referencing ardenscoticule (sorry if that's spelled wrong) would also work. So yours looks a bit higher than from Howard, but then again it is lapped and I have heard "vintage" ones are better than new. If it puts a mean edge on your blade, it's worth it.

From the ebay picture, the blue side does appear to actually be a BBW.

**gugi** · 03-30-2009, 07:28 PM

it is a natural combination, and as far as i'm aware the veins are yellow/blue, not yellow/slate, or at perhaps the rock near the yellow/slate boundary is not suitable for hones...

you were willing to pay that much for it, that means it was worth as much to you and a little less to the second highest bidder. there's always a better deal somewhere, but that doesn't mean it's available to you.

it should be a good stone, the seller seems to have used it for honing razors.

**hi_bud_gl** · 03-30-2009, 11:52 PM

I am sorry i have to say this.
I may making mistake don't know but i will say it.
this is bad deal you have paid stone size for 4inch by 2 more then 100$.This is not deep rock etc or any special Belgian.
Again may be in my culture it is not bad to tell people when they make mistake .You have done wrong and don't do it again.
Everyone does mistake i have done many many times but i have learn from it.I hope you will learn from this too.hopefully you will understand me too.

**pjrage** · 03-31-2009, 12:00 AM

Thanks guys for the tips. I take no offense hi bud, I appreciate your honesty.

Yeah, for some reason I kept thinking it was a 6x2 and I was thinking it was a pretty good deal. But then I saw 4x2 and realized it wasn't the best deal. Oh well, I didn't over pay THAT much. Hopefully the 4x2 size will still be ok for actually using. We'll see

Otherwise, I might get some serious HAD, lol.

**Whiskers** · 03-31-2009, 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

You have done wrong and don't do it again.

This made me lol.

<-- hi_bud_gl

I was eyeballing that stone, but I am looking for something a little longer.

**gugi** · 03-31-2009, 08:33 AM

lol, here's that thread that that other thread was about

in the big scheme it's not that important how much you pay for it. perhaps in another year ardennes will be selling these for $150 a piece as it gets progressively harder to mine them....

but yeah hi_bud_gl is right - don't do it again, read carefully and bid accordingly.

btw i've done the same thing - i bid more than i should've on a vintage thuringian thinking that it was much larger size than it was. i don't think i overpaid but if i were more careful i would've realized that i have that size already and would've bid a bit less, and end up not winning it.
but then i got to try yet another one of these, and we all know that unless you try any one you can get hold of, you're never sure if you're not missing something

**pjrage** · 03-31-2009, 12:06 PM

Yeah, this is the one, lol.

Honestly, I posted after I realized it was a 4x2, thinking that it may not have been the best deal after all, but was still eluding myself with wishful thinking. I just wanted opinions to see if for some reason it was better than it seemed (comes with slurry stone or was rare or something, for example) or was even worse for some reason (if the bottom actually looked like slate for example).

I definitely took no offense to what hi bud or anyone else said whatsoever!

Live and learn, lol. This is definitely not the first thing I've paid too much for, and it definitely won't be the last

**ArdennesCoticule** · 03-31-2009, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by holli4pirating

I have heard "vintage" ones are better than new.

You heard wrong ...
Coticule rocks are Coticule rocks, it doesn't matter when they were mined!
Coticule was formed like 480 000 000 years ago so the 50-100 years between the extraction of a vintage Coticule and a recently quarried Coticule doesn't influence the Coticule quality at all.

There are many different Coticule layers, each with his own specifications. So there are differences between the different Coticule layers but this has nothing to do with the quarrying time span!

I'm telling this because there are a lot of misunderstandings about Coticule floating around the internet!

Originally Posted by gugi

and as far as i'm aware the veins are yellow/blue, not yellow/slate, or at perhaps the rock near the yellow/slate boundary is not suitable for hones...

Both the Coticule and the BBW stones are suitable for honing.
But the Yellow Coticule is glued on a black unusable slate (= base plate, otherwise the Coticule stone would crack).
Sometimes we extract Coticule naturally bonded to the BBW, these are the combinations stones!

**JimmyHAD** · 03-31-2009, 04:47 PM

When hi_bud_gl referred to a "deep rock" this was a label along with "old rock" that was on some vintage coticules. Those with either of the labels are highly regarded by some folks. As Rob of Ardennes said a coticule whether vintage or recently mined is a coticule while some are better for razors and some for other applications.

Your 4x2 is the same size as my Deep Rock. Mine is a darn good razor hone. Back in the old days when they were gluing BBW on the back of the yellow for stability they didn't value the BBW as a hone. That is why both my Deep Rock and my Old Rock have labels glued over the blue. It was only later that some enterprising soul experimented with the blue and found it an effective tool for honing razors.

Anyway, that may be a decent deal if it turns out to be a good hone for razors. It may even be a Deep Rock or an Old Rock with the label removed.

Whatever..... you have to try it and see how it does. I would rather have a 6 or an 8 but I have honed on a 4 and it works. You may have a great hone there so don't feel too bad.

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