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Thread: What not to buy on ebay:
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03-17-2010, 12:42 AM #11
Ivan, you just don't want anyone to buy them cause you want them all for yourself!
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03-17-2010, 12:53 AM #12
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03-17-2010, 01:23 AM #13
It is the crazy pitting you see on the blade.
There is a chemical reaction that hits celluloid and causes it
to out gas corrosive chemicals that put nasty pits in the
blade. The painful part is that the worst pitting is found
under the scales where the blade is thin and has no steel
to spare. When you sand away the pits the blade gets
lost.
A razor with scale rot stored in a cigar box with good razors will
damage other blades without cell rot.
The implication is that if you own a brand new blade it
can suffer by being placed in a box with one of these old bad apples.
Those that have "lots" of blades should note this well.
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03-17-2010, 03:59 AM #14
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03-17-2010, 04:44 AM #15
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03-17-2010, 02:35 PM #16
Excellent education on scale rot -- I see it now. It's all in the pattern of pitting on the blade, correct?
So here's the follow up -- is rotting something that happens to all celluloid with age, or is it limited to some smaller portion of the total population? And if the latter, what portion?
It's just that I've always leaned on the side of keeping the original, celluloid scales on a razor rather than replacing them with more modern plastic, but am I actually playing Russian roulette with my razors by doing so? If celluloid rot is relatively common or happens to all celluloid with age, then it would seem like I am.
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03-17-2010, 03:55 PM #17
It doesn't seem to happen to all plastics as they age. I'm no chemist so I can't say as to what the difference is (poor formula, poor manufacturing, bad raw materials). It seems that bad plastic is more prevalent than I had originally thought though.
I've seen this on electric guitars, even as "old" as the early 1970's. The phenomenon is obviously more visible in "Closet Classics", where the instrument has been sealed in its case for many years and the corrosive gases have nowhere to escape to. It shows up as unusually heavy oxidation on metal parts, such as pickup springs. Otherwise the damage is harder to detect until the plastic itself begins to shrivel and crack. Sometimes there's even a hazy/oily residue left on the surface of the plastic and the tell tale chemical stink of the gas itself.
Most vintage guitar repairmen would tell you the same fix. Swap the part out and either trash it or store it somewhere else (far away) for posterity. You're actually killing the collectors value of the instrument if you allow the corrosion to continue.Last edited by Blue; 03-17-2010 at 03:59 PM.
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03-17-2010, 04:43 PM #18
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Thanked: 13234There have been some very "good" discussions about cell rot throughout the forum Search Neil Miller's threads/posts he is one of the most educated guys I know on the subject....
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03-17-2010, 04:49 PM #19
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Thanked: 13234That is the first part of my advice the second half of the sentence says "Or until you do not have to ask anyone, if the razor is collectible or ya got a good deal"
Honestly the funniest threads I see on here are the ones that start with " I just bought this/these razors did I do ok" ??????
Because you either got royally screwed, or you stumbled with shear blind luck into a great razor and now we all hate you
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03-17-2010, 07:24 PM #20