Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 13
Like Tree1Likes

Thread: Razor from the Revolutionary War! Only 30 years too late...

  1. #1
    Captain ARAD. Voidmonster's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Pacifica, CA
    Posts
    2,474
    Thanked: 2226

    Default Razor from the Revolutionary War! Only 30 years too late...

    So, digging through my razor searches, I came across this. 100% Original Revolutionary War NH Doctor's Straight Razor & Case ID'ed!!

    It's a pretty nice early razor, sure. But that story? My favorite bit is this: "Necks on very high end razors like this one begin to come in during the 1770s but do not take over till the 1790s on standard quality ones."

    I wonder where the seller got this idea?

    I wanted to have a look at this listing again this morning, so I was just browsing through one of my saved searches that brought it up the first time, when what do I find but this:

    RARE STRAIGHT RAZOR WITH EAGLE ETCHING AND STAMPED HORN W/ HISTORY CIVIL WAR

    Is it just me or does it look like that blade 'etching' is done with paint? After the rust was sanded off? Isn't it convenient how these come with old pieces of paper to tell you about their storied histories?

    Right. It's good to know that if I ever get sufficiently strapped for cash that my ethics vanish I can make money by inventing stories for my razors and selling them on eBay.
    -Zak Jarvis. Writer. Artist. Bon vivant.

  2. #2
    Senior Member ScienceGuy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    1,650
    Thanked: 1341

    Default

    That etching does look a little weird. I saw the "revolutionary war" one as well. It could be intentional mislabeling, or, if the note is from 1870s, that was 100 years after the razor was supposedly picked up, so it could be an authentic note from bad family memory.

    Never heard of that bit on the necks though. Looks like an early 1800s razor to me.

  3. #3
    Captain ARAD. Voidmonster's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Pacifica, CA
    Posts
    2,474
    Thanked: 2226

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ScienceGuy View Post
    That etching does look a little weird. I saw the "revolutionary war" one as well. It could be intentional mislabeling, or, if the note is from 1870s, that was 100 years after the razor was supposedly picked up, so it could be an authentic note from bad family memory.

    Never heard of that bit on the necks though. Looks like an early 1800s razor to me.
    I immediately thought of this thread when I saw the Revolutionary War one.

    I agree, it could be a mislabeling, but the bit about the 'necks' makes me think it's an intentional misrepresentation. That razor is almost certainly no older than 1810, and probably closer to 1820. It's a shame too, because with some careful restoration it'd be a nice razor. But it requires restoration due to that broken scale at the pivot, and as a 'Revolutionary War' artifact it probably won't ever get the care it needs.

    I'd just really rather see something like that continue to be useful than be a prop for cheap drama.
    -Zak Jarvis. Writer. Artist. Bon vivant.

  4. #4
    Natty Boh dave5225's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    1,462
    Thanked: 183

    Default

    The second razor , the one supposedly from the Civil war , had to have been made after 1890(?) , because it's stamped Sheffield England . At the time of the Civil war it would have been stamped Sheffield without England being added .
    Greetings , from Dundalk , Maryland . The place where normal people , fear to go .

  5. #5
    Captain ARAD. Voidmonster's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Pacifica, CA
    Posts
    2,474
    Thanked: 2226

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by dave5225 View Post
    The second razor , the one supposedly from the Civil war , had to have been made after 1890(?) , because it's stamped Sheffield England . At the time of the Civil war it would have been stamped Sheffield without England being added .
    Good catch! I was so hung up on the fake etch I completely forgot about the stamp.
    -Zak Jarvis. Writer. Artist. Bon vivant.

  6. #6
    ace
    ace is offline
    Senior Member blabbermouth ace's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Virginia
    Posts
    3,362
    Thanked: 581

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmonster View Post
    So, digging through my razor searches, I came across this. 100% Original Revolutionary War NH Doctor's Straight Razor & Case ID'ed!!

    It's a pretty nice early razor, sure. But that story? My favorite bit is this: "Necks on very high end razors like this one begin to come in during the 1770s but do not take over till the 1790s on standard quality ones."

    I wonder where the seller got this idea?

    I wanted to have a look at this listing again this morning, so I was just browsing through one of my saved searches that brought it up the first time, when what do I find but this:

    RARE STRAIGHT RAZOR WITH EAGLE ETCHING AND STAMPED HORN W/ HISTORY CIVIL WAR

    Is it just me or does it look like that blade 'etching' is done with paint? After the rust was sanded off? Isn't it convenient how these come with old pieces of paper to tell you about their storied histories?

    Right. It's good to know that if I ever get sufficiently strapped for cash that my ethics vanish I can make money by inventing stories for my razors and selling them on eBay.
    Don't allow your ethics to vanish. We already have enough politicians.
    nun2sharp likes this.

  7. #7
    Never a dull moment hoglahoo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Tulsa, OK
    Posts
    8,922
    Thanked: 1501
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmonster View Post
    Good catch! I was so hung up on the fake etch I completely forgot about the stamp.
    But what about that authentic handwritten note? Surely that could not be faked? I mean look at it, it's folded and torn and everything, there's no way someone could fabricate that without going to a whole lot of trouble
    Find me on SRP's official chat in ##srp on Freenode. Link is at top of SRP's homepage

  8. #8
    The Hurdy Gurdy Man thebigspendur's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    New Mexico
    Posts
    32,765
    Thanked: 5017
    Blog Entries
    4

    Default

    A little analysis and you could ID the exact ink used and the instrument for the writing.
    No matter how many men you kill you can't kill your successor-Emperor Nero

  9. #9
    Just a guy with free time.
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Mid state Illinois
    Posts
    1,448
    Thanked: 247

    Default

    I had my Grandma write me a note. She's 92. So I have one of those authentic 92 year old notes. Pretty cool.

    I'm with Scienceguy on the note though. It could be an authentic note written by a misinformed family member 20 years ago. That exact model razor is listed in one of my books here as being dated 1890-1900. The etching looks identical in the book. I guess I'm the sucker that'd buy it, if I thought ANY razor was worth 400 bucks. Then again, I might buy a brand new one...I mean since I'm in dreamland where I can spend 400 bucks on a razor....

  10. #10
    Senior Member BenjamanBarker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Chicago, IL
    Posts
    565
    Thanked: 75

    Default

    For those interested according to the seller of the Eagle etched razor the note reads as follows:

    "THIS RAZOR WAS USED BY PHILIP YANT OF NAVANE? OHIO DIED JAN 29 1867 AGE 75 YEARS 1MO 11 DAYS . THEN WAS USED BY A SON JOSEPH YANT OF NORTH MANCHESTER INDIANA DIED AGE. THEN TO ANOTHER SON OF PHILIP YANT DANIEL YANT OF NAPA IDAHO DIED JAN 26 1911 BORN MARCH 29 1927 AGE 83 YRS 9MO 27 DAYS. THEN TO A GREAT GRANDSON OF PHILIP YANT ELMER GARBER? OF NAMPA IDAHO NOVEMBER 9 1909." , This was found with the razor in a local estate.

  11. The Following User Says Thank You to BenjamanBarker For This Useful Post:

    regularjoe (12-03-2011)

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •