Fifth full shave today, and each time I recognize some progress. Problem area "chin" less and less a problem area. Neck still a bit of a problem though. Haven't yet figured out the angle for ATG. WTG and XTG aren't quite getting it. Enjoying shaving more that ever, even more than with my DE. I'm happy with the progress I'm making, and will just keep at it. But if anyone has any suggestions beyond what I see on Lynn's DVD, I'd be grateful. I realize the neck can be a problem for many, and that "grain" changes are unique for each of us. But if there's a technique that you'd like to share, for ATG on the neck, I'd appreciate hearing about it. Naturally, I'm tempted to think the blade isn't sharp enough, and that if I just had a set of honing stones, all would be well. But with only five full shaves, I'm sure my technique is more likely the problem. I went over my neck WTG and XTG four passes, and still left whiskers behind. Like a Ferrengie, I'm all ears.