Thread: I'm a Canadian, eh !

Thanks TC, good advice.

Barry

It took 3 pages of replies from genuine hearted people for you to finally agree that your bevel setting was incorrect. While you "may" be genuine in your want to learn your disregard for sound advice is malapropos.

Regardless I'm out. Feed the troll if you guys want. He is either pulling your chain or is really adverse to good advice. Which ever is true this post isn't going to save the situation.

No troll here. These are genuine questions, difficult to answer, but nevertheless sincere.

When I purchased a 4000/8000 combination stone, the very first thing I did after watching all the videos? Soak the stone, put a light pencil grid on the surface, and lap the stone.

The result? Right out of the box, the stone was not flat. Both sides needed to be lapped before I could use it. I was surprised, but it was easy to check and easy to lap so why not...

I'd definitely check to see if your stone is flat; particularly if it is new.

The other thing to check is the stroke. The stone is probably wide enough to not require an X stroke, but you should do it anyway. Why? Even after you lap the stones, they are not mathematically flat. They are just as flat as your lapping process allows. Taking the blade across the lapped stone in a X pattern will effectively sum the error in flatness across the stone. On average you will get the most consistent surface for honing you can achieve and thus a blade bevel which is also consistent across the width of the blade.

You might see this in the magic marker test. A spot that is low that doesn't get honed. The X stroke will eliminate that.

Lots of other considerations, but at least get a flat stone applied on average across the width of the blade to start.

my .02,

Ed

Hi there EH, thanks for this sounds good, will try it.

Barry , just think of it like this , you can ask why any time and then you get answers , most of the time we don't hear what is being said, but , there is not a mystery here , razors have a very fine delicatE edge that takes a little time to work on and make them shavable. And there are those who have done the measurements , but back to your why , learn how to shave with a straight before trying to figure out the edge , then you will know why your edge needs to be a certain way, scraping off your face isn't fun, a truly shave ready razor is . Think of it this way, you might want to learn how to fly a plane before you build it and then climb in! If you just take a step back , and do it by the numbers , you'll be honing before you know it , that's all everyone is trying to do is get you on a path of success. And buying hones before you have even learned to shave is not the right way , Good luck. Tc

Hi there tc. Good advice, except that I would like to learn the "why" of flying rather than just how. I would feel ever so much safer, lol.

The why is cause it's faster than walking, and the answer came early in this thread , you just didn't hear it ,, try not asking why so much and grasp the info that is there , Bob said it early on , not all razors geometry is correct hence , the experience level will overcome this. Now back to the dead horse , you ask why , I say shave first then your answer will come. Tc

By the way safer is ok , but sometimes you just got to have faith

Ok TC, I accept your point. I just have a hard time with the idea that the razors and stones are sold defective. Aren't there laws in place in this regard; if not there should be.

now your insulting our intelligence, your trying to say that everything else in your life is dead nuts perfect , and that the hones and razors are the only thing that aren't?i have custom razors that are hundreds and even thousand. nothing is perfect, how old are you ? I,m done I just read your posts from 2 years ago ,, if you cant hone yet ,, you may as well stick our hones in a fish tank