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Thread: Closeness of shave increasing???
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04-06-2007, 01:34 AM #11
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Thanked: 1I think the hair under the skin would shorten as well as it dried.
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05-08-2007, 02:50 AM #12
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05-08-2007, 07:55 AM #13
I have asked a few times about these pastes but nobody else seems to use them. I have used them, but as I have no other pastes as a comparison I guess my opinion isn't particularly useful.
After the 8k i use the red, which I am not sure is the right thing, as some people have said that red paste is coarser than then 8k. I didn't notice a great improvment anyway. The black paste I do use regularly, as it is the only way I can get my razor sharp enough for a comfortable shave. Apparently it is graphite based and somewhere I read that it is 1 micron but don't quote me on that. I find it does help my edge, but I will certainly be looking at Tony's pasted strops in the summer as I can't help but feel it is a little insufficient. It is also messy and difficult to store without it melting.
Have you used the pastes yet? What did you find if you did?
Nick
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05-08-2007, 08:25 AM #14
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Thanked: 0Hi Nick
I already wrote this post and realised reading it back that its controversial. I am only expressing my opinion and findings so far - and I am very much still in the noob section so bare with me.
I have the red and the black on hanging strops, and I use the red after the coticule for enough passes that it starts to draw (normally only a handful or so) then I move to the black until the same thing happens (usually 10-15). Knowing when the draw happens is the key I think - at first it feels oddly rough, but as you work the blade through it starts to stick - much like it does with a hone.
As for what they are, I beleive that the black is an ash compound, and a really tight polish, the red is an unknown quantity - but who cares it works! It seems to me that its about the same cut as the coticule, but because its on a hanging strop it has a more polishing action then a cutting action.
I do not use nortons, as I want to use natural stones. Speed and fast cutting are things that I actually do not want. I think that the natural stones are much more suited to razor work as they apppear not to allow overhoned positions to be reached. Yes - they are more work. On the other hand, I am not honing 20-30 razors a day.
Just to note, I have not used this blade since. Somewhat controversially, I have decided that this blade is too thin, and that my coarse beard needs something thicker. I know that there are folks who will say that a 3/8s will shave just as well as a 8/8, but my experiences so far are that anything less then a 5/8s jumps and skips all over my face.
Cheers
Si
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05-08-2007, 03:01 PM #15
I think that if I could afford it I would be going the same route with the natural stones, unfortunately I started shaving with a budget!
Where did you hear about it being ash? I have looked for info on these pastes everywhere I can but couldn't find them anywhere. Does it appear on the german razor sites? Unfortunately my german is not polished enough for me to read effectively!
I have both pastes on hanging strops, but I would prefer them on a paddle. I'll keep using them as I am now until I can afford to exp[eriment with other options as they are still improving my shave.
As for the razor size, I also find that 5/8 is the minimum size I find comfortable. It seems easier to get and angle and the blade is heavy enough for the stroke to be smooth. When I use a 4/8, it doesn't seem to balance well in my hand, and struggles to push through the stubble and therefore skips. I guess the edge is just as good, it just requires a different technique to handle effectively. I'm sure that everybody has a 'comfort zone' with razor size in mind, I am not sure what my upper limit in size is yet though.
Nick