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    Default 4 sided Strich Riemen razor strop with hone

    Hello Everybody;

    I am getting deeper and deeper in this world and I like it.

    I would like to be able to 1) make a new SR truly shave ready and 2) be able to do touch ups so the SR stays sharp longer.

    For my understanding the best tools to do this are the Naniwa 12K and the Shapton 16K stones. However I can not get any of them here in Europe so I need to find alternatives.

    I visited a store the other day and they proposed the 4 sided Sreich Riemen razor strop which present a natural stone on one of the sides.

    Could this be a substitute for the Naniwa or Shapton stones in order to make a SR shave ready and keep the blade sharper longer?

    Thank you for the feed back

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    Any finish hone is suitable for the job of touching up a blade. There are also some very good barbers hones for that too. My synthetic hones stop at 8K and that is where the naturals take over. If you are getting your razors honed by others right now, you may already have a favorite finisher. Most of the guys that hone have a variety of finishers. If you are thinking about which finish hone to get, get your razors finished on different hones and then get that one as your touch up hone.
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    For maintenance that paddle with pastes will be fine. Question 1 about new sr honing Is a different story. If it needed bevel set to finish you will want more stones in your progression or a whole lot of time.
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    I have seen those strops with 2 sides. One is good Russian leather and the other a fine slate hone. Very good for razors.
    I wish you might take pictures of all 4 sides so we can tell what they are? I expect one is pasted leather, one not, one a slate hone, but what is the other side?

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    Not really. The stone appears to be a slate most probably in the 5-8k grit range, more probably in the lower range. The Red & Black pastes are higher grits, most probably Red(Iron Oxide) and Black (Graphite) paste and could polish a 5k edge to a shavable and very comfortable one. Here is an old, good thread on Dovo pastes.

    But as said, this is not an alternative to a shave ready edge and mostly because of its narrow width and short length, might be difficult for a novice. One of the biggest problems with those multi pasted strops is, contamination. If one puts the cover on incorrectly just once, the strops will be cross contaminated.

    Stropping with paste can be an alternative to a high grit stone for maintenance, but first, one must master stropping. There are a number of other pastes that will work well for maintenance, other than the black and red paste, Chrome Oxide, Diamond and CBN.

    So, first send your razor out to be honed, shave ready, then maintain on a barber hone and strop, pasted or plain leather, it will be much easier to maintain and to learn to shave.

    Find a local mentor, your learning curve will be dramatically reduced and they can advise you best, what products are available to you locally.
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    And there you have it!

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    Thank you for the replays;

    I found a picture in this link of the strop / hone that I am talking about: http://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/d/l225...9YS9pD8APQ.jpg

    I donīt have in my mind going farther than maintaining the edge of my SRīs as long as possible so maybe that will be enough.

    For the moment I just strop and do some chromium oxide on balsa wood passes every 3 or so weeks.

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    I feel this strop will not replace the synthetics you mentioned in the OP, considering your last message.

    Once you touch that stone, you are not touching up a blade anymore, but will need to do a lot more after. Maybe the pastes will do the job, but then why not try a natural stone that starts at 5-6k and forget about the pastes? To me, it's a much simpler and cleaner solution. Coticule of the Ardennes comes to mind..

    We have some great options in Europe, when it comes to natural stones. I can tell you a whole lot about them, if you're interested, but I feel that isn't really a topic here. However if you're growing to like this, like you say you do, I feel the european naturals will soon become very interesting. There's also a bunch of great barber hones, like RezDog mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Srdjan View Post
    I feel this strop will not replace the synthetics you mentioned in the OP, considering your last message.

    Once you touch that stone, you are not touching up a blade anymore, but will need to do a lot more after. Maybe the pastes will do the job, but then why not try a natural stone that starts at 5-6k and forget about the pastes? To me, it's a much simpler and cleaner solution. Coticule of the Ardennes comes to mind..

    We have some great options in Europe, when it comes to natural stones. I can tell you a whole lot about them, if you're interested, but I feel that isn't really a topic here. However if you're growing to like this, like you say you do, I feel the european naturals will soon become very interesting. There's also a bunch of great barber hones, like RezDog mentioned.
    Thanks for the replay.

    I donīt care about the strop it just came with the hone. The also offered me natural stone. Can a natural stone be comparable to a 12k Naniwa for what I need?

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    I have no idea as to the grit, but the one I had was very good at re-freshening an edge when used like a barber's hone and would greatly improve the edge from an 8k.
    I forwarded it to a new shaver who is still going strong with it. FME

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