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    To me using a single layer of tape is like giving a dead person a drink of water, it can't hurt. OTH this is what can happen to a beginner by not using tape http://straightrazorpalace.com/honin...-not-hone.html . It is an extreme example but can be done with a heavy hand, a hone, no tape and poor understanding of honing.

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    didn't check the link ... but I'm guessing: fine stone, too much pressure on the spine, bevel faces never meet? Lift the back and give yourself an edge? (pun intended, I'ma bad bad man)

    edit - because busy. will check it later.
    busy. also insatiably curious and easily distracted. dammit
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    Another complication that throws the force calculations entirely out of whack is the simple fact that a beginner lacks the proper knowledge and/or skill to apply the force properly, with the result often being that excessive and/or uneven pressure is applied on the spine with excessive and/or uneven wear occurring on that spine.
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    I'm a firm believer that wear at the spine is far more important than wear at the bevel, that is, the geometry is changed far more by spine wear. My reasoning is simple - the spine to blade width ratio is about 3.5 to 1 - if you remove a miniscule amount of metal from the spine, the impact is multiplied by the same ratio of 3.5 at the bevel. Add the fact that the spine is at almost 90 degrees to the hone and will, therefore, wear at a faster rate than the bevel (about 9 degrees to the hone) and it soon becomes obvious why bevels begin to get wider, and consequently harder to meet.
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    I Just New Somebody Else Was A Gonna Be Chimin In Here.... I Was Tryin To Say Real Nicely Ya Do It Your Way ( Dont Bother With The Link BoBH Took The Time To Send Ya ) Be A Mighty Nice Lookin double Edge Knife!!!!!!!!!!!!!Ty

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    You,ll Be Fine Just Use 2" Duct Tape!!!!!!!!!!Ty
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    Quote Originally Posted by Addison View Post
    You,ll Be Fine Just Use 2" Duct Tape!!!!!!!!!!Ty
    That raised a quiet chuckle. To be honest, I don't have much choice other than to do it my way ... but if i'm walking up a mountain, I'll ask the folk coming down if there's any snakes on the path. I've met some of the nicest people that way ...

    I followed the link. I really would never have guessed at someone trying to hone through the shoulder. On a 1k stone. I mean - at one level you just have to admire the dedication, commitment and determination. That must of taken hours of hard graft.

    Then you weep for the future of humanity. We are all capable of this level of stupid, it's healthy to keep that in mind.

    added - the video by gssixgun in mid thread is worth its weight in gold. Glad I'm seeing this before , rather than after ...
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    Wandering off on a tangent ... and thanks for your patience if you're still here ... Is there any value in practicing some of the methods and techniques with non-razor specific stones (fairly low grit, used for general sharpening) a a razor shaped lump of metal? I could make one of those fairly easily and get a feel for how the spine and the edge wear. Looking at the resources here it looks to be a very very light touch process, even at its most aggressive.
    Your opinion - would that just make it more likely to learn bad habits?
    I'm expecting the answer "the only thing like a razor is a razor" and I'm not looking for shortcuts, it's just that it fills me with horror to think about killing the product of a craftsman's work even if it's a used, cheap razor. I'm slightly animist in outlook at tend to think 'things' have souls too, when they are loved enough. Plus on the up side - I could play with some metal and stones

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    : Well I Just Dont Know Utopian Tried To Help BoBh Tried To Help- So I Really Believe Its Just Time To Ask Bruno!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I,m Out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Ty brunoisrighte
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    May I Ask What Is A """"Razor Shaped Lump Of Metal"""""" & How Do You Make It & After Your Done Making It Just What Are You Planning On Doing With It?????????????????????????????

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