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05-23-2017, 06:00 PM #1
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Thanked: 1083Yes x strokes is the way forward.
Read everything in here http://straightrazorpalace.com/srpwi...azor_stropping
Great video from the library showing paddle stropping from AFDavis11
https://youtu.be/VYy3B3v8STo
https://youtu.be/VYy3B3v8STo
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Mrchick (05-24-2017)
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05-23-2017, 06:18 PM #2
Nice nice. Simple answers to my questions hehe
nothing to do with what I thought xD
The X stroke is the hardest part for me since the strop is wide enough to do a straight pattern stroke and I am afraid that die to the pressure (even if light) I could damage the bevel when it's touching the edge of the leather (The strop is wide enough to fit the blade and even part of the shoulder. Needless to say, the shoulder is always off the strop)
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05-23-2017, 06:23 PM #3
Keep the blade flat, and your razor's edge will be fine. Maybe try the racetrack pattern if the X-stroke isn't all that comfortable. I have a 3" wide strop and still avoid going straight up and down the strop. Good luck with your stropping exploits!
--Mark
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Compa (05-23-2017)
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05-23-2017, 09:16 PM #4
You have a 12K hone to sharpen the edge and a strop.
The strop will not sharpen an edge but will improve the edge.
A 12K hone like the Naniwa 12000 grit will give you a very nice edge.
Use a straight edge to inspect your hone for high and low spots.
Hone more on the high spots so the hone stays flat. If you have
something to flatten the hone consider it.
Hone smoothly with light strokes. It helps to use a marker like a "Sharpie" to
paint the edge and see if the hone is touching the razor all the way to the cutting
edge. That area is less than a millimeter on many razors. The important bit
is only the cutting edge.
Strop smoothly with the same or less weight than you used on the hone.
On a 12K hone you can use stropping strokes.
After honing there may or may not be a near invisible wire edge (burr) that
a strop will remove. A burr will often start a face cut so it needs to be wiped off.
After shaving the micro deformations of the cutting edge can be pulled out
straight and aligned. Minor oxidation will also be wiped off and the surface
made cleaner and smoother.
A hanging strop should only flex a bit. Lighten the weight of the razor or
pull tighter. The small flex concentrates the strop contact on the edge so
a light touch is best. A heavy touch will bend and roll the edge. The idea is
that the edge is dragged or pulled across the leather.
Leather on wood paddle strops do not flex but use the same pressure (almost none)
and the same smooth calm strokes.
When stropping think about smoothing a wrinkle from the edge of crumpled aluminum
foil or wet paper. If you push it crumples worse, if your drag your finger pull (tension) it will smooth.
You can drag wet paper over the surface of water and it will smooth out.
Speed is not needed for stropping. Smooth the right answer.
Set the blade down spine first lay the razor flat and move smoothly. Stop
lift the edge up and over and pull in the opposite direction. The spine
can stay in contact with the razor the whole time.
A professional barber might strop quickly but for him time is money
and he has had a lot of practice. After a year of nice smooth strokes
you will find they are quick enough. The time it takes for lather to
soften whiskers is about the time it takes to correctly strop a razor smoothly.
Refresh the lather and then apply razor to you face.
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Compa (05-23-2017)
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05-23-2017, 09:47 PM #5
I read this awhile back and it made sense to me, " bury the spine". Bury the spine in your strop but that does not mean heavy handed, to me it translates to pressure applied in the direction of the stropping stroke. As example, if the spine is travelling away from you the pressure would not be straight down on the strop but into the strop. I hope this makes sense if not I will gladly do my best to get across what I mean.
Nothing is fool proof, to a sufficiently talented fool...
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05-23-2017, 09:49 PM #6
Thank you Nifty.
I will add your knowledge to my repository of important facts and will keep them at hand once the King stone sent by Aerdvaark finally arrives. I'm pretty sure part of why the shave is still not 100% comfortable is because the bevel is still not perfectly made, but I've learned a lot in the last month.
It's been a long and frustrating road (8 years with an unusable SR) but with the current state of the blade and the new gear, I feel confident that I can finally make the razor a 100% shave ready razor.
When stropping think about smoothing a wrinkle from the edge of crumpled aluminum
foil or wet paper
As example, if the spine is travelling away from you the pressure would not be straight down on the strop but into the strop. I hope this makes sense if not I will gladly do my best to get across what I mean.Last edited by Compa; 05-23-2017 at 09:52 PM.