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04-17-2008, 05:09 PM #1
To Smile or not to smile...
After reading countless posts it seems the general opinion is that a smile on the blade is a bad thing. Implying that a flat edge is optimum. But I noticed that in the old barbers manual posted in the library it says that there should be a slight smile on the blade. Am I reading this wrong or was this just something they believed in the past but has since been considered incorrect?
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04-17-2008, 05:14 PM #2
I believe, from what I've read (I'm still a newbie to this kind of stuff), that smile is good and frown is bad. I think we need the experts on this one...
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04-17-2008, 05:17 PM #3
I don't think I have seen anyone suggest that a smiling blade is a bad thing and I love a smiling blade myself!
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04-17-2008, 05:51 PM #4
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Thanked: 369My take on the barber's manuals is this: there is nothing wrong with a flat edge for shaving but, over time, unless deliberate measures are taken, a concave (frown) edge will naturally develop. Especially with poor honing technique.
Obviously this type of edge will not shave well at all. Therefore the barber's manuals teach a specific honing method to develop the convex (smile) edge which shaves just as well, if not better than, a flat edge. Some razor manufacturers have helped to avoid this by just making a razor with a convex edge.
Scott
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04-17-2008, 07:57 PM #5
I see. In that case it was probably me mis-interpreting what I was reading. I just seem to remember people reviewing ebay purchases and pointing out the smiles. I assumed they were noted in a negative way.
So am I to understand that a smile on a blade is possibly more preferable than a perfectly straight edge?
Is this because it allows the edge to cut the hairs at an angle, slicing them as opposed to chopping them?
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04-17-2008, 11:08 PM #6
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Thanked: 586Smiles are always better than frowns. Turn that frown upside down!
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04-17-2008, 11:32 PM #7
Yes, a little on the angle. A smile, as I understand it, has less cutting surface too, therefore less pull. I don't own one though, so I'm not speaking from experience. I build in the smile on flat edges.
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04-18-2008, 12:32 AM #8
I have several blades that came new with a contour to the edge which is basically a smile and they shave great. So yes a smile is a good thing.
No matter how many men you kill you can't kill your successor-Emperor Nero
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04-18-2008, 12:55 AM #9
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Thanked: 4A smile is certainly another element to learn in honing. I haven't got the hang of honing smiles yet frankly.
It is also seems to require a little more finesse to shave with.
But a big old smiling wedge is a pleasure to behold and I am quite taken with them despite the fact I haven't figured out how to hone em or shave with them
- Bob