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10-15-2008, 10:33 PM #1
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Thanked: 3Looking for advice on razor purchase.
Hello Everyone! I am a new member and I am looking into buying a straight razor. My wallet is a bit tight at the moment though. I had some questions and was wondering if anyone would post a response with their opinion.
I am thinking of purchasing a straight razor from classicshaving.com so that it is pre-sharpened (or I would have one sharpened if it is not in shaving condition) and was wondering if anyone could offer any advice on particular makers, models, widths, material, etc... I would be looking at $150 or less. Can I purchase a satisfactory razor in that price range? What about strop maker, type, etc...?
Also, I would only be able to afford a cheaper razor and a strop because I would not be able to afford everything now. I already have creams, soaps, and brushes. How long could I expect to shave with a new razor before it needs honing if I shave 1-3 times a week?
Basically, I do not want to make my first straight shaving experience unsatisfactory so I am just looking for any guidance that I can get.
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10-15-2008, 10:52 PM #2
You can go different routes, Wapienikas for around $45, or a Dovo #1516 Special for around $90, this is a great razor
I just bought a Dovo special and was amazed how sharp it was out of the box.
Don't forget you'll need a strop and a finishing stone to keep it sharp.
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mziter (10-16-2008)
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10-15-2008, 11:01 PM #3
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Thanked: 3So other than the razor a strop and finishing stone are essential for at least a little while until I can get a second blade, and a honing stone to practice on?
Where did you purchase your Dovo Special?
Where can I get a finishing stone and what exactly is it?
By the way, thank you for your reply!
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10-15-2008, 11:49 PM #4
Beginner's kit
I put together a beginner's kit which is also a "back to school" special for college folks on a tight budget. I have a pile of vintage razors and I clean them up and hone them to a 30000 grit, I add one of my QuickStrops for $15 and a coticule bout for $65. Don't have the brush figured out yet but I can get you into a very sharp razor, strop, and belgian coticule hone for $115 plus shipping ($12 anywhere in the U.S.).
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mziter (10-16-2008)
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10-16-2008, 12:43 AM #5
Welcome to SRP,
Since you say your wallet is tight, the usual route we direct people is the Classifieds. Usually there are a bunch of decent razors which are honed and tested to be shave-ready. Will cost you less than any new razor. Read the stiky post in this section and the few links on the wiki it contains and you'll get some idea.
What howard is offering seems like a rather nice package. The coticules are great stones. You'll probably want a hone eventually even if you don't need it right away and probably can postpone that part for several months.
As long as your razor is honed you'll be good. The differences between razors won't matter until you get fairly proficient and then a lot is a matter of personal preference (still some razors are a whole lot better than others).
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mziter (10-16-2008)
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10-16-2008, 01:05 AM #6
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Thanked: 3Thanks to everyone who has replied so far!
Howard - What is a QuickStrop? Is that just a regular strop? Will it make a significact difference as opposed to a more expensive strop? Also, what is a coticule stone? Is that to just to be done every once in a while to keep the razor sharp or is it for honing? I'm sorry if I am asking a lot of questions, I have Lynn's DVD on the way!
Thanks again!
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10-16-2008, 01:13 AM #7
First off, welcome to SRP!
From Howard's website (theperfectedge.com);
***NEW PRODUCT*** 7/14/08 STROPS. In response to inquiries for less costly strops, we have developed the QuickStrop which is a cowhide strop about 22" long and 2" wide with a hook on one end and a handle on the other end. At $15 per strop, these can be used as natural leather strops (hanging) or pasted strops. Custom sizes can be ordered. Talk to Howard at 508-842-7132 9am - 5pm eastern time or email at [email protected]The Belgian quarry yields two types of stone in two grades. We ONLY buy the Selected Grade which is the best grade. The Blue Stone is a 4000 grit and the Yellow Coticule Stone is an 8000 grit. The Belgian Stones will cut all types of steel since garnet is harder than steel. Use these stones for all kinds of woodworking tools, knives, and straight razors. We recommend only water spritzed on top of the stone to make the slurry.
I hope that helps a bit.
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mziter (10-16-2008)
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10-17-2008, 02:00 PM #8
Welcome,
My little bit of advice is to get two less expensive razors as oposed to one higher dollar one. Used shave ready from the classifieds is a good bet. Howards deal also seems good. His stones are all top notch. If funds would permit i would advise the 6X2 couticle over the bout. I have used a bout for about a year and it did a fine job but I just got a 8X2 coticule from Howard and wish I would have saved for it from the start. Also if you go with the coticule have Howard lap it for the $5.00. I laped my own and it took a lot of work on the DMT C to get it flat. This would have been well worth the $5.00.
Don't feel you need a hone right now. I made it a couple of months before needing a stone. I started with a Lynn honed Dovo Special and with careful stroping you could go better than a month without a hone job. If you buy two razors and rotate you could get well past your learning curve on the shaving before you needed to go into the honing learning curve. And you will have your hands full relearning to shave without having to worry about the hone.
Also keep in mind when you start honing that a lot of people have gone to the shapton system. While I have not gone into this realm yet It has tempted me. I already have more in hones than some cars I have driven. I can't spend the money now on the shapton system. If I were starting fresh I would however consider this route.
Another option for maintaing a sharp blade would be pasted strops which I am not going into, just do a search and you will find all you want to read on this subject or most any other subject for that matter.
Don
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mziter (10-17-2008)
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10-17-2008, 08:29 PM #9
Welcome, mziter
You're getting some good advice here. Tony Miller's strop is a smart way to go. Make sure you fork out for a high quality coticule. The substandard ones with blue grain through will actually dull your edge. For that price you might look at a Norton combination 4k/8k stone, the one most of us use, and maybe a chromium oxide pasted paddle strop to finish. There are lots of options. Go slow with the purchases. If you find something isn't working for you you can always replace it with something else and resell what you don't need in the classifieds here.
It's an exciting time of anticipation isn't it?
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mziter (10-18-2008)
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10-18-2008, 04:28 AM #10
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Thanked: 3I have to wait a while before I can order this stuff but I cannot contain myself!!! I have been going crazy just waited for Lynn's DVD to arrive!!! Anyways, I have looked around and I am thinking about getting the coticule to go along with my strop and razor!! Just to be sure though, are we talking about the yellow stone as a fishing stone? I just want to make sure that I am looking at the right one!! Also, if I have it lapped for me do I ever need to lap it again? If so, how ofter? Do I need anything else? To be honest, I don't even no what lapping is. I will look around more though. I swear I don't think I have left this site in days. Haha!
By the way thanks to everyone so far for their patience!