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11-21-2008, 06:09 PM #1
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Thanked: 52what is your honing and stropping technique and system
Hello
I am new to shaving and am doing alot of research about sharpening razors. I have read tons about first hones finish hones...
I would like to ask everyone what they do for sharpening. Just a quick list of the order of tools and which ones ... something like this. This is not what i do just an example of what i am looking for.
1k norton
4k norton
8k norton
12k chineese
1.0 paste on paddle
.5 paste on paddle
linen
leather
lather and shave...
i am looking for some ideas about what to get for honing and for stropping with pastes and what people like best...and what works economically for me...
thanks for all your help and advice...i get such great tips from this forum...
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11-21-2008, 08:04 PM #2
A heart welcome to SRP!
A few things to consider. First, if you are brand-spanking new to straight razors I'd like to offer a few suggestions prior to taking off on a rather expensive start. You will need the following to start your quest:
1. SHAVE READY straight razor
2. Strop (hanging is best, but paddle will work)
3. Shave soap/cream (personal preference)
4. Shaving brush (can be had for as little as $5 to well over $200)
A shave ready razor can be had from 3 different sources. The first 2 are the easiest. Either the classifieds (5/8 or 6/8 round point the best to start). Or a starter set from someone like Kenrup (search the Vendor's Corner forum). Last, buy yourself your new razor, then send it to one of honemeister's to get it shave ready for you. (Depending on where you pruchase it it might already come pre-honed and truly shave ready. You can ask here if that is the case.)
You don't really need the hones to start straight razor shaving. But if you really want to get them, you should consider the Norton 4000/8000 and the Chinese hard stone or a coticule. Then you will need some paste (either Chromium Oxide or diamond) as a final polishing agent. A paddle strop works best, but there are other devices too (e.g., linen side of a strop). You should get yourself one or two inexpensive razors from ebay or an antique shop/fair to develop your honing skills. The shave ready razor can be used to compare your honed edge against.
Last, but not least, read through the wealth of information in the forums here. You will have the benefit of learning other people's experiences. You might also get a copy of Lynn's CD. It a great investment for the novice...
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11-21-2008, 08:07 PM #3
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Thanked: 13247+1 to what Dan just wrote, very concise and informative post Dan..
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11-21-2008, 08:46 PM #4
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Thanked: 3Stropping and Honing
I too am rather new to stra8 razor shaving. How often would you strop a razor (# shaves)? I have read every 3 - 5 shaves. How often would you hone a razor? I have read once a year unless the blade is noticably dull after stropping. I do intend to buy the Lynn Abrams CD, BTW.
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11-21-2008, 09:06 PM #5
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Thanked: 1903Nonsense. Try this: strop +how +often site:straightrazorplace.com - Google Search
Nonsense, too. How long does a razor stay sharp? - Straight Razor Place Forums
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Maplerunner (11-21-2008)
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11-21-2008, 09:09 PM #6
stropping
Welcome at first
1 st question=believe or not you will need to strop everytime (30-50 strokes) some people likes to strop in the middle of the shave.
2 nd is depends a lot factors what type blade you have ,how often do you shave +your facial hair etc
will be ones 3-6 months.
a good blade you could go for a 1 year.
hope this helps
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Maplerunner (11-21-2008)
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11-21-2008, 09:10 PM #7
I strop when the razor starts feeling duller than it did last time I shaved. This has happened after every shave for me so far. And if stropping isn't enough, I hone it. And if honing isn't enough, I buy more hones. And if that isn't enough, I get cranky and buy another razor.
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11-21-2008, 09:23 PM #8
I use a barber hone only. I only break out a Norton if I'm setting a new blade. I strop about every 2nd shave. Most people strop every shave. I don't find it necessary, but would recommend it. I just let the razor rest about 24 hours and it shaves just fine.
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Maplerunner (11-21-2008)
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11-21-2008, 09:52 PM #9
I strop every shave.
10 or so on the linen with ash if the razor wasn't perfect last shave.
30-50 on the leather.
Then shave.
If the shave sucks I grab my barbers hone and give it three laps and go back to shaving.
If the shave still sucks or sucks worse ( my hone is finikey) I try three more laps.
Repeat last step if the razor is improving each try.
If that just isn't getting it it's time to go to my honing set-up:
1000 grit paper on glass for bevel setting or chip removal if needed.
3 micron film on glass pyramided with 1 micron film on glass for the honing. thhe number of laps is solely dependant on the razor.
From there back to shaving again.
If the shave sucks.......
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Maplerunner (11-21-2008)
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11-22-2008, 12:03 AM #10
I do 50 leather 50 linen every shave but I rarely use the same razor twice in maybe weeks. I also do 10 laps on leather (horse) after the shave. I feel like it will pull any hair of skin out of the serrations that might lead to corrosion. I wipe the blade with an Outer's silicone gun cloth impregnated with RIG (rust inhibiting grease). Never have a problem with rust. (knocking on wood)
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