I got the lip tonight, finally. What I finally settled on is puffing my lip out for 1 N-S pass, then 2 diagonal passes, 1 toward and 1 away from my mouth. It's BBS unless I puff my lip out (because I didn't go ATG at all.) Good thing I don't walk around with my lip puffed out. Now then, the neck remains a mystery. I got some ideas from Fritz in another post, hopefully it will be the answer I needed!