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Thread: Arkansas stones
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07-25-2009, 04:20 PM #1
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Thanked: 10Arkansas stones
A month ago, I purchased an Arkansas combo soft/hard stone, and a transclucent stone. These are used with oil. Is it safe to hone my razors on the translucent stone...it is approx.6-8k in terms of grit.
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07-25-2009, 04:48 PM #2
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Thanked: 402The translucent is definitely good for razors
as a finishing hone.
You can also use it with water.
Be prepared that its not too fast.
You'll need a couple of strokes but then its fine.
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07-25-2009, 05:14 PM #3
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Thanked: 132Hey Razorman,
I use the hard white w/ a slurry to set my bevels, the surgical black as a 4K, the translucent as a 6-8k and finish off with the charnley Forest stone. Although im new to honing, i do get a razor edge that passes the HHT test, every time...six individual razors so far. (Shumate barber, Dovo Soligen, ERN 'ator,' Fredrick Reynolds wedge, Geo. Worthington Clearcut and a Joseph Elliot frameback.)
However, i do have the Shaptons and they are very much quicker...very much quicker and may be your best bet cost-wise.
I love Arkansas stone, but ya have to be patient and experiment for what works best on each individual razor...this may take a couple hours sometimes for me.
Mac
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07-25-2009, 05:32 PM #4
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Thanked: 4942Totally agree on the Translucent. It is a fun stone, but it ain't quick as mentioned already.
Lynn
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05-12-2016, 03:40 PM #5
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Thanked: 96Lynn; What do you recommend to burnish a Dan's Arkansas Black? Don said to use the diamond 325 but I don't know if I like you guys enough to kill that plate. Dan's said to burnish, just run an old razor over it about 25-50 times and it will be smooth as glass. I've seen in the posts using old knives, cleavers etc and lapping 100-300 times.
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05-12-2016, 03:57 PM #6
I've lapped one Washita, one Soft Ark, one Hard (translucent) Ark, one Black Hard Ark with my 9 year old DMT D8C 325 ........ + a ton of other stones, and it is still going strong. All stones done in the kitchen sink with water running (dribbling) on the plate/stone. So far so good.
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05-12-2016, 04:05 PM #7
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Thanked: 96I am more concerned about burnishing the Black stone. I can't believe you need to lap it 100+ times to get it smooth.
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05-12-2016, 04:10 PM #8
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Thanked: 3795Lapping is done until it is flat. Burnishing is done until it is smooth. Each take as long as they take. In the case of an Ark, each takes quite a while.
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05-12-2016, 04:13 PM #9
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Thanked: 481If you want it to perform optimally as a finisher, that means lapping it flat, polishing it up, and burnishing it. Downside is it takes time. The bright side is, they're a hard stone so this doesn't have to be done every time you hone a razor. Just keep it oiled so the stone doesnt load up with swarf and let it ride.
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05-12-2016, 04:14 PM #10
Y'know I bought vintage Pike/Norton Arks off of the bay. All in boxes, all in fine condition. I had no clue about burnishing, or anything else but flattening. I flattened the stones once. I have used the lesser grits (Washita, Soft Ark) on my pocket knives to good effect, the translucent and black on razors. They work great giving me a comparable edge to a fine coticule. Not to an Escher or a 12k superstone. That is simply my hands on experience, YMMV.
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