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    Default Chins and pressure, necks and angles

    So tonight I went back for a second bite at the apple. Did the left and right cheeks, most of the neck and a bit under the chin. The rest I did with the Fusion.

    There must be some trick to the chin that I'm not getting, especially the area between the lower lip and the chin at the jaw line. Too much pressure and well... see this thread for the bloody result, too little and the hair pushes the blade around and I get a weeper. Any insight on pressure as it relates to shaving the chin (which for me, is very coarse hair) would be most appreciated.

    My other issue relates to angles, particularly around the neck. Trying to hold the angle correct going from the jaw line down into the neck proved very tricky. I managed to do it without cutting myself but the shave was less than sterling and my form was not very good. Any thoughts here would also be appreciated.

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    Maybe rather than focussing on angles think about shaving with the blade "almost" flat against the skin. Less scraping involved that way. Of course there are tricky spots that will not allow a blade "flat" to the skin but it may help to rethink your "angles"

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    Adrain, IME it was a matter of feeling awkward and gradually finding what worked for me. Here are some diagrams and descriptions that may be helpful. The menu will show the various parts of the face/neck and how to approach them.

    Just keep at it and take you time. Focus on skin stretching with the opposite hand and the blade angle. Sometimes twisting the neck, making facial contortions, filling the cheek with air can help facilatate stretching.
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    Maybe rather than focussing on angles think about shaving with the blade "almost" flat against the skin. Less scraping involved that way. Of course there are tricky spots that will not allow a blade "flat" to the skin but it may help to rethink your "angles"

    Have you read this ?
    http://straightrazorpalace.com/fo...-use-care.html
    Thanks for the link. In a strange way it makes me feel better about my technique. I have a Prima Klang and a very coarse beard. I am very, very far from being an "expert" with a straight razor but I get a better shave on my cheeks now than I do with my G. Fusion. Though I am pretty sure I will need to learn how to "touch up" a razor much sooner than I was planning.

    Adrain, IME it was a matter of feeling awkward and gradually finding what worked for me. Here are some diagrams and descriptions that may be helpful. The menu will show the various parts of the face/neck and how to approach them.

    Just keep at it and take you time. Focus on skin stretching with the opposite hand and the blade angle. Sometimes twisting the neck, making facial contortions, filling the cheek with air can help facilatate stretching.
    Aw man! I went ahead and tried an XTG pass on my cheeks (went very well... no blood) and as I was shaving I thought that maybe I should try this direction on my chin. I had already done my chin with the Fusion and didn't want to deal with it (I was already 45 minutes into the shave... speed is not my strong suit at this point). Thanks for the link! Was the exact thing I needed.

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    Heaven knows it's taken months to get comfortable with angles and strokes. What I've found is that the advice given by experienced shavers on SRP saved me tons of time and grief. Always start there. But, sometimes to get the final piece in place, you have to think outside the box (general advice about blade angle, etc.)

    Two examples...

    An example is the stretchy skin on my neck, where I shave with the blade about 60 or 70 degrees. If I held it at 30 degrees, the skin would roll up at times, and I would cut myself more easily. The hair there is fine, and cuts easily with the blade held that obliquely.

    The above is being given, not as advice or suggestion, but to illustrate that you need to sometimes think outside the box (usual, general advice) to get there.

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    Go slow, slow, slow, and enjoy the shave...


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    The chin and jawline are usually the toughest to master Jim already linked you to the diagrams Some learn better by visual so try the video section of the forum.

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    Jockeys video helped alot with the neck area for me

    Let us know how the next one goes

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    Quote Originally Posted by stygian View Post
    I have a Prima Klang and a very coarse beard.

    ...I was already 45 minutes into the shave... speed is not my strong suit at this point.

    Just a couple of things I spotted here! If you have a coarse beard an extra full hollow ground razor like the Prima Klang might be too thin and flexable. If the blade flexes against the hair and you force it, bam, instant cut. You may find a more wedge like razor suits you better as the blades are thicker and therefore flex less. Some of the Thiers Issards are 1/2 grind razors and there are a few W&B cleavers out there as well on the 'bay for a very good price!

    It used to take me about that to do a shave. As the others are saying, dont rush it, the speed will come! And, an old guitar players mantra, speed is the by product of accuracy. Better to take it slow and keep your ears!

    Good luck and have fun!

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