Quote Originally Posted by AlanII View Post
But if the razor hasn't a reasonable bevel, then you need something else (as suggested)? Your post seems to confuse the issue to me.
A 1k Norton, Naniwa, Shapton or other synthetic is very handy for quickly setting a bevel or correcting the same. A 4k can do it but it takes more time. Could be a whole lot more depending on where you're starting from.