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04-03-2010, 10:17 PM #1
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Thanked: 4Unsure if this counts as a razor 'pulling'.
I recently received a straight razor which I bought from the classifieds here at SRP, and it was to be shave-ready upon arrival. Razor was shipped very quickly and in good packaging. The first thing I did when I opened it was do the hanging-hair test. It didn't perform as well on this test as I had hoped, but then again I am very new and maybe it did just fine.
I tried shaving about 3 times with the blade, but was never really satisfied or comfortable with it's action on my face. It seemed to be "skipping" accros my stubble, not gliding smoothly like I thought it would (once again, I am a newbie).
So I decided to wait and give it a good stropping once my strop arrived, to make a final judgement on whether or not it was shave-ready when it arrived. After stropping, it seemed a little more sharp, but still did not provide a smooth stroke like I was hoping for. It still shaved me very close, but didn't feel quite right.
Maybe... 1. My shaving cream is bad (I'm using walmart brand gel-stuff until my brush arrives, so I can apply my Tabac), or 2. Maybe it's common for new guys to hold the razor improperly and thus have an unsteady draw accross the face, or 3. Maybe I am accidentally not going WTG, or 4. Maybe it needs a good strop.
Could it be one of these things, or should I send this out to be professionaly honed? Thank you
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04-03-2010, 10:24 PM #2
Try holding your skin tight and moving the razor slowly while conducting a shaving stroke and see if that helps lower the skipping.
Don't send it out yet, wait for a little more experimentation.
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04-03-2010, 10:25 PM #3
If you bought a razor in the classifieds here and you feel there is a problem please contact the seller and discuss with them before taking it public. Maybe it's the razor maybe it's you but the first place to start is with the seller.
No matter how many men you kill you can't kill your successor-Emperor Nero
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04-03-2010, 11:01 PM #4
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Thanked: 96When I was first getting started I had most of the problems that you seem to be having, as I suspect most of did. The easiest thing to blame is the razor, if a seller on the SRP classified said it was shave ready it mosy likely will be, since they all test shave with them before they are sent. My first razor was sharpened by the king honemiester, even with that my first couple shaves tugged and pulled, but as soon as I started to make more confident strokes, narrowed in on the correct angle, and started to feel more comfortable with the gripping the razor, the pulling went away. A bit further down the road, once the pressure I was using lessened to about the right level, my stropping improved considerably, my lather making skills improved and I learnt how my beard grew, the irritation went away, for the most part. Str8 shaving has a huge learning curve, and even though a sharp razor is essential, learning the other skills is where the most improvement will come from, since that is where most begining problems lie. Imo the angle is the hardest to get right, because I think we have lots of bad examples of str8 shaving, in our subconscience. from the shows we have watched, where they all seem to use about a 90 deg angle. It seems that if the angle is too steep, over 30 deg, it causes pulling, too shallow and it goes over the top without cutting the whisker, get it narrowed down and a smile will suddenly appear on your face, and every whisker will wash down the sink.
Keep at it and it will come, but trust your razor, it will do its job, if you do yours. However if a week or more of shaves goes by and you are still not seeing any improvement, and you honestly believe you have nothing left to add to your technique, contact the seller.
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04-04-2010, 01:31 AM #5
I am a n00b myself but it sounds like angle and loose skin. Pull your skin tight bro and try a less aggressive angle.
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04-04-2010, 01:41 AM #6
Being a FNG to straights, i also having the same problem about not removing any hair. Jasongreat just gave me the insite that i needed. He said a shallow angle will make the blade glide over the hair without removing any. I think that is one of my problems. Thanks Jason for unknowingly helping me with a big issue.
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04-04-2010, 03:46 AM #7
One other thing to take into consideration is the length of the stroke. If you're trying to use a straight like a DE or some other form of shaving implement ..... and you're new at it .... chances are you won't be happy with the performance. Taut skin, correct blade angle and short strokes. So a half inch to an inch at a time. Trying to glide the length of your cheek at a newcomer's level of expertise is not good ..... assuming that is what you're doing.
Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
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04-14-2010, 11:19 PM #8
Hello BabysBottom,
I am a newbie too and like you, I have also noticed "skipping" across the stubbles. The problem is especially prone areas where the beard is coarsest (for me, that's the chin area). After 4 shaves under my belt now (woohoo), I have noticed this getting easier, leading me to believe that technique, more than razor will come out to be the dominant contributing factor to end the "skipping" war with the stubble.
On a different note, razor may also play some role in this. Personally, it is for this exact reason that I decided to invest in a few different kinds of razors (wedge, 6/8, full hollow, 1/2 hollow, etc...without breaking the bank or going crazy though), just to see if blade geometry (and weight) will make a difference. My preliminary observation is that Wedge performs best with areas where the beard is coarsest. Jury is out on this one for now until I improve on my technique. Keep at it.
Good luck,
-Robert