I use the Conk soap and it works great for me. At first I messed up the lather a lot, but with patience and good balance between soap and water, now I lather right all the time. Personally I didn't like the lime scent, but the amber and bay rum instead are my favorites. One thing I do no-matter-what, is to add 4 glycerine drops to the soap just before attacking the cake with the wetted (not too much) brush.... Hope this helps and good luck.