I got a mama bears soap an tried it out. I like the bigger container that it comes in. I'm getting the mix to water to soap down much better in my lathers I can really feel a difference. My improvement on stropping helps a lot too. I did a WTG and ATG shave. Almost BBS! Just have a few more patches to work out. Slowed down a little. Up to 25 min with prep. Gotta get a non-alcohol afterhave! Any recomendations?