Thread: Help with my edge

pics would help us to help yer problem better...


pcdad

pics of what I bought?

yes...if you use 1 million words compared to 5 good pics..I think the pics would help more with your problem description..of course

pcdad

Hi,

Hard to say without the pictures of your edge, but it might be that you rolled the edge while stropping. Remember that it takes some time to learn how to strop. There are some fine videos on YouTube about stropping. You could also search Wiki for stropping tips.

If you are already a woodworker then it is no magic for you to get the blade honed. You could also check for classifieds to get yourself a shave ready razor: Once you know what shave ready means then it is easy for you to hone one by yourself.

At first Welcome to SRP.
At the moment there is no way someone could tell what was your exact problem.
Your blade was shave ready?
or your stropping dull the blade
or your honing.
Please don't get me wrong.
i have no doubts about your sharpening ability.
The razors are a little different then another tools when you sharpen them.
This is why So many people (mostly knife sharpeners)
when start to hone blade they get a little confused.
do you have only 1 razor?
if answer yes please do contact the seller and i am sure they will take care of it.
if you do have another razor and you are unable to get your blade sharpened by vendors then i would be gladly take a look at your razor.
(it is free you have to only pay for postal stamp.)
About the stropping.
please check this post and there is a video take a look it may help.
http://straightrazorpalace.com/strop...technique.html

not first video scroll down you will see.
About your stones.
i don't think you would be able to get your blade shave ready condition (true shave ready) what you have at the moment.
6000 is way low grit.
Let me know.
thank you and enjoy with straight razor shaving.

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

At first Welcome to SRP.
At the moment there is no way someone could tell what was your exact problem.
Your blade was shave ready?
or your stropping dull the blade
or your honing.
Please don't get me wrong.
i have no doubts about your sharpening ability.
The razors are a little different then another tools when you sharpen them.
This is why So many people (mostly knife sharpeners)
when start to hone blade they get a little confused.
do you have only 1 razor?
if answer yes please do contact the seller and i am sure they will take care of it.
if you do have another razor and you are unable to get your blade sharpened by vendors then i would be gladly take a look at your razor.
(it is free you have to only pay for postal stamp.)
About the stropping.
please check this post and there is a video take a look it may help.
http://straightrazorpalace.com/strop...technique.html

not first video scroll down you will see.
About your stones.
i don't think you would be able to get your blade shave ready condition (true shave ready) what you have at the moment.
6000 is way low grit.
Let me know.
thank you and enjoy with straight razor shaving.

First off, thank you to all for your advice. I'm a bit unsure if this is replying to all or one so I hope I clicked on the right thing. I take no offense to not sharpening a razor properly or the stropping. I'm new to this level of edge sharpness and expect to be on a learning curve for a while. I live in Duluth, Mn and will try to update my profile soon.

I'm not sure that I can get a quality picture of the edge as I can't see any thing with my eye, maybe if I had some type of microscope?

I got the razor from classicshaving.com because I saw guys suggesting to use their sharpening service when buying the first razor. I thought the "professionally" honed razors was them honing it but maybe I should have asked them and it wasn't. I'll contact them and ask.

I don't feel like I put too much pressure on the blade when stropping. I'm just grasping at things to understand why its going dull. (since I did shave ok the first time I figure it's my stropping, either too light or hard) I think I will try the table method Gugi. Thank you very much for your generous offer to look at it Hi Bud gl. If all else fails and the vendor won't look at it I may take your offer but I'm sure they will as they advertise a sharpening service.

Maybe I just don't strop enough. I did cut my thumb pad quick and deep by accident opening it the other day so it is sharp to a point Being a newbie, all the videos in the world are no match for personal instruction but I will be viewing more for sure until I get this. I'll try the 50/50 laps and let you guys know if it worked.

the primary cause for the edge dulling is oxidation, not mechanical damage, so the main goal of stropping is to remove this oxidation and then realign the mechanical deformations.
so while the edge is indeed very delicate it is still steel and that's pretty robust. as long as the spine is in contact with the strop there really isn't much damage that you can do even if using pressure as the stropping surface basically moves along the bevel. the rolling of the edge occurs if the spine is lifted as then there is a force perpendicular to the bevel.
so there is no need to be too timid with the stropping, just common sense will be good.

as far as i understand classicshaving offers razors with the factory edge and honed past that and since you got the one that's been honed it should be good. some time ago they utilized the services of Lynn Abrams, but not anymore, still whoever does their honing should be doing at least a reasonable job at it. as i said since the edge is deteriorating over subsequent shaves the most likely cause is ineffective stropping and this should still be fixable. if not you have other options, so one way or another we'll get you going and successful. nothing to worry about.

there are a whole bunch of members in MN, the two off the top of my head are chrisl and bruce, not sure about randydance. In any case they would probably know of somebody nearby you, if there's one.

Originally Posted by gugi

the primary cause for the edge dulling is oxidation, not mechanical damage, so the main goal of stropping is to remove this oxidation and then realign the mechanical deformations.
so while the edge is indeed very delicate it is still steel and that's pretty robust. as long as the spine is in contact with the strop there really isn't much damage that you can do even if using pressure as the stropping surface basically moves along the bevel. the rolling of the edge occurs if the spine is lifted as then there is a force perpendicular to the bevel.
so there is no need to be too timid with the stropping, just common sense will be good.

as far as i understand classicshaving offers razors with the factory edge and honed past that and since you got the one that's been honed it should be good. some time ago they utilized the services of Lynn Abrams, but not anymore, still whoever does their honing should be doing at least a reasonable job at it. as i said since the edge is deteriorating over subsequent shaves the most likely cause is ineffective stropping and this should still be fixable. if not you have other options, so one way or another we'll get you going and successful. nothing to worry about.

there are a whole bunch of members in MN, the two off the top of my head are chrisl and bruce, not sure about randydance. In any case they would probably know of somebody nearby you, if there's one.

Now that advice makes me feel more confident that I'm not rolling the edge and now I "should" be able to eliminate that from the problem as I do keep the strop tight and the spine is always riding the strop, never lifted with the edge riding "solo". If anything I have noticed a few times when I start a return lap with the edge lifted off the strop but that's not hurting it, just not helping it. Doesn't happen frequently. Over time I'm sure my wrist movements will be more fluid.

One thing you may have is metal particles on the edge. If you were to buy a mini-microscope from radio shack priced at about $13.00, you could look at the edge and tell more of what is going on and describe it to us better. We are just quessing even quessing if it has been hand honed.

Originally Posted by rllucas9

One thing you may have is metal particles on the edge. If you were to buy a mini-microscope from radio shack priced at about $13.00, you could look at the edge and tell more of what is going on and describe it to us better. We are just quessing even quessing if it has been hand honed.

Great advice, guess who's going to the mall today?