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    Here is something you should look at...

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    I started 3 months ago. After a little bit of a rough start (bought from TAOS, a TI, not quite shave ready) I bought a Dovo from SRD. I also started buying off eBay, and I bought Norton combi stones. If I had to do it over again, I would:
    Buy a Dovo from SRD, along with Norton stones. Then I would buy a razor from someone here, that was restored, but not fully honed. Only bevel set. I would practice my honing on that razor. You would always have the Dovo to compare your honing technique to. I would never hone the Dovo myself until I was confident in my ability to match it, or at least come close.
    Then I would buy a razor from a flea market or eBay, and restore it myself, and hone it from start to end.
    So now you would have three razors, hopefully of different styles (weight, width, length) and would have a better idea of which style you like. At that point you could sell the two you didn't like, or if you are like me you could continue buying razors and end up with 40 in just 3 months.

    Hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by souschefdude View Post
    I started 3 months ago. After a little bit of a rough start (bought from TAOS, a TI, not quite shave ready) I bought a Dovo from SRD. I also started buying off eBay, and I bought Norton combi stones. If I had to do it over again, I would:
    Buy a Dovo from SRD, along with Norton stones. Then I would buy a razor from someone here, that was restored, but not fully honed. Only bevel set. I would practice my honing on that razor. You would always have the Dovo to compare your honing technique to. I would never hone the Dovo myself until I was confident in my ability to match it, or at least come close.
    Then I would buy a razor from a flea market or eBay, and restore it myself, and hone it from start to end.
    So now you would have three razors, hopefully of different styles (weight, width, length) and would have a better idea of which style you like. At that point you could sell the two you didn't like, or if you are like me you could continue buying razors and end up with 40 in just 3 months.

    Hope that helps.
    +1 to Souschef. He and I have had parallel experiences, I think, but he's thought (and written) about them better than I have.

    Dovo Best Quality razors are their entry-level blades, carbon steel, simple scales, about $80. You can get a quarter-hollow grind, too, which is a little easier to learn on than a full hollow. I've only seen the quarter-hollows at one vendor, The Superior Shave, in Florida.

    If you can get a quarter-hollow from SRD, do that and use the lifetime honing deal.

    If money is an object, skip any stones for now--especially if you don't have any experience honing. Honing is rewarding, meditative, but also destructive if you just jump right into it like I did. The victims are shaveable now, but with so much unnecessary hone wear that I probably couldn't resell them.

    So, start with a shave-ready Dovo, a decent brush and strop, some really nice soap, then if you're hooked like the rest of us figure out where you can trim your budget, hold your breath, and surrender. Souschef's sequence and overall strategy are perfect.

    One addition I'd make, DON'T take on a wedge as one of your early restoration efforts. Try one out as a shave-ready blade, and research its special honing challenges before you start pouring your time into its honing.

    Good luck, welcome, and have fun!
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    1. Yup, Dovos are very good razors.
    2. Send it out for honing, your face will thank you
    3.The offer from SRD is outstanding, take advantage of it.
    4. Purchase a high quality soap, it makes a world of difference for me.
    5. Learn beard prep, proper stropping, and shaving technique.
    6. Forget honing for now, focus on No.5

    Hope this helps,
    Randolph Tuttle, a SRP Mentor for residents of Minnesota & western Wisconsin

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    Quote Originally Posted by randydance062449 View Post
    1. Yup, Dovos are very good razors.
    2. Send it out for honing, your face will thank you
    3.The offer from SRD is outstanding, take advantage of it.
    4. Purchase a high quality soap, it makes a world of difference for me.
    5. Learn beard prep, proper stropping, and shaving technique.
    6. Forget honing for now, focus on No.5

    Hope this helps,
    This sums everything up nicely. I'd like to expand a bit. Understanding always trumps being told in my book.

    1) Dovos are quality razors, hard to go wrong with them, but...

    2) They don't come shave ready out of the factory, and they need something better than the standard knife sharpening shop to get it shave ready. The importance of having a shave ready razor to start with cannot be overemphasized. It takes a certain amount of experience to shave correctly, which can only be gotten through shaving with bad technique the first few times.

    3) Honing also takes a certain amount of experience to do right. The last thign you want as a beginner is to have doubts as to whether it is the sharpness of the razor or your techinque that is giving you bad shaves. As long as the razor is honed by a pro, you know it is your technique. The free hone for life special is amazing. Even if you want to hone your own razors, having one razor that you know is honed by some of the best in the business to compare your own work to is invaluable.

    4 the difference between good and bad shaving soap is incredible. Invest in some decent stuff and you will never look back.

    5 These are the fundamentals, which is what you should focus on. In the beginning, over do the beard prep. It is too easy to under do it, and by overdoing it you can soften your hairs up a little more which will help compensate a bit for your lack of technique.

    Proper stropping is also very important, as you can ruin a shave ready razor by stropping too hard. Read the wiki, practice with a butter knife, and take it easy in teh beginning.

    Focusing on proper technique in the beginning will prevent you from developing bad habits. Getting a good shave with a straight is highly reliant on technique. With good technique, you can get a good shave out of a slightly dull razor. Without good technique, you wont' be able to get a good shave even from the sharpest razor. Good skin stretching, proper angles, proper pressure (ie: almost no pressure at all) and proper strokes will take awhile to get down. Hell, I've been at this for 6 months, and I'm still have spots where I slip with one of the above items and need to correct myself.

    Lastly, remember that technique is something you learn physically, not just cerebrally. You can memorize the entire wiki, but you still won't get good shaves for awhile because your muscle memory has not caught up yet. Because of this, expect your first few shaves to be sub par. Its okay, everyone's first are like that. Just be patient and keep finding ways to improve your technique and you will be getting amazing shave before you know it.

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